NODE 7e499c6are: Re: Mr. Squirrel
Tom.Jennings@f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Jennings)Tue, 13 Oct 92 22:45:57 PDT
U> The most pressing thing is not to integrate encryptions in
U> mail handlers, but at the level of ether. Ether is an
U> enormous security hole. I can walk up to anything running
Who uses ethernet?! :-)
I think it's safe to say our FidoNet doesn't have three feet of
thinwire in it. We're all dialup. Message-reader integrated security
is where it's at -- here.
You're totally right about it though... but it requires physical access.
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NODE 9894f672Re: Mr. Squirrel
Eric Hollander <hh@soda.berkeley.edu>Wed, 14 Oct 92 11:11:49 PDT
>Who uses ethernet?! :-)
Everyone here at UC Berkeley.
>I think it's safe to say our FidoNet doesn't have three feet of
>thinwire in it. We're all dialup. Message-reader integrated security
>is where it's at -- here.
In the case of FidoNet, it sounds like that's what's needed, because your
mail is being sent from systems that are not multiuser systems. The net
really is just for exchanging files and mail; it isn't for remote computer
access.
>You're totally right about it though... but it requires physical access.
Physical access is much easier than people think. I can walk into almost
any computer room here at UC Berkeley and plug in. And we have something
called building ether in the building I work in: all of the machines in
this section of the building are on the same ether net. This means that if
we want to see other researchers' data before it's published, we can,
because we can see all of their packets.
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NODE 704ce56dWho uses ethernet (Mr Squirrel?)
Peter Shipley <shipley@tfs.COM>Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:13:10 PDT
>
>Who uses ethernet?! :-)
>
I do at home, want to tap it? simple. just crawl under my house and
pug in to any jack, don't owrry about bringing batteies there are plenty
of 120V outlets.
-Pete
PS: and soon I plan on using ISDN to bridge by home ethernet backbone
onto the internet
NODE 4ac131a4Who uses ethernet (Mr Squirrel?)
pmetzger@shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)Fri, 16 Oct 92 11:34:23 PDT
>From: Peter Shipley <shipley@tfs.com>
>>
>>Who uses ethernet?! :-)
>>
>I do at home, want to tap it? simple. just crawl under my house and
>pug in to any jack, don't owrry about bringing batteies there are plenty
>of 120V outlets.
> -Pete
>PS: and soon I plan on using ISDN to bridge by home ethernet backbone
> onto the internet
Old hat -- I still remember the days of yore (only about five years
ago, but it seems like an eternity) when I worked at bellcore and
Phil Karn revealed to me that his home network was on the internet.
All I've got from home is a wimpy little UUCP link to this very day.
Perry
NODE cddc36f8Re: Who uses ethernet (Mr Squirrel?)
Peter Shipley <shipley@tfs.COM>Fri, 16 Oct 92 11:47:34 PDT
>
>Old hat -- I still remember the days of yore (only about five years
>ago, but it seems like an eternity) when I worked at bellcore and
>Phil Karn revealed to me that his home network was on the internet.
>All I've got from home is a wimpy little UUCP link to this very day.
What I was pointing out was how trivial it would be to compromise
such networks (not that I have such a network).