re: Re: (fwd) A Silver Bullet to Limit Crypto?

U> From: gg@well.sf.ca.us (George A. Gleason)

 U> Rapid promulgation of decent user-friendly PKSs looks 
 U> pretty essential at this point.  I'm thinking, how about 
 U> approaching Apple to see if they'll include a PKS along 
 U> with their Macs, as bundled software, sort of like 
 U> Hypercard.  Even if the PKS which is used, has some 
 U> problem with is, as for instance the old trapdoor-knapsack 
 U> system, **anything** is preferable to nothing at all when 
 U> it comes to getting the public educated.

I agree 101% -- I'd rather have a "bad" system in place, with people
asking for a good one (and roundly complaining about the short-sighted
implementors :-) than to sit and wait until we can implement the
"right" system.

I'd much rather have email users want privacy and rag about their
compromised system. Even a relatively poor one buts some substantial
blocks into routine bulk monitoring of traffic...

As frequently happens, the real problem is not technical.

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:09:47 PDT
   From: Tom.Jennings@F111.N125.Z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Jennings)

   I'd much rather have email users want privacy and rag about their
   compromised system. Even a relatively poor one buts some substantial
   blocks into routine bulk monitoring of traffic...

As long as they *know* it's compromised. Too many people out there
think the Internet, for instance, is secure already. They don't
realize how easily one can spy on their email, or find out if they're
subscribed to a mailing list.
	- john romkey	  ELF Communications	 romkey@ELF.com

>From: romkey@asylum.sf.ca.us (John Romkey)

>   Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:09:47 PDT
>   From: Tom.Jennings@F111.N125.Z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Jennings)

>   I'd much rather have email users want privacy and rag about their
>   compromised system. Even a relatively poor one buts some substantial
>   blocks into routine bulk monitoring of traffic...

>As long as they *know* it's compromised. Too many people out there
>think the Internet, for instance, is secure already. They don't
>realize how easily one can spy on their email, or find out if they're
>subscribed to a mailing list.

I don't see what the point of putting out mediocre things is at all,
given that good things exist. PGP is free software. You need a good
RSA implementation? There is one out there already. Why put out crap
when gold is available and cheap?

Perry

From: Tom.Jennings@F111.N125.Z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Jennings)
>I'd much rather have email users want privacy and rag about their
>compromised system. 

From: romkey@asylum.sf.ca.us (John Romkey)
>>As long as they *know* it's compromised. 

Perry:
>PGP is free software. [...]  Why put out crap when gold is available
>and cheap?

Perry, Tom _is_ using PGP.  

Please be aware of what the actual question is, rather than red-flagging
on keywords like "compromised."

Eric