Re: HIDE: embedded msgs in grphics & snd

Re. cyphertext and music: I've been professionally involved in the
recording/production scene and could arrange something.  There are plenty of
damn good bands in the Bay Area who might volunteer for this kind of thing;
I can think of a couple of candidates right away.  Also a great local
studio, Polymorph Productions, which would be amenable to this.  All we need
to get going is for someone to cover the actual cost of studio time, which
is only $30/hour.  Now the only hitch right now is my own schedule being
really really busy, but I could get a free weekend, or hook up some local
cypherpunx with the bands and the studio, and see where it goes.  Basically
I get the idea that if this worked, the record would get a lot of interest
including from a wider audience than cypherpunx, and that translates into
attention on the band as such, and that translates into paying back the
original production investment with interest.   So, anyone interested...?

-gg@well.sf.ca.us.

George A. Gleason says:
> Re. cyphertext and music: I've been professionally involved in the
> recording/production scene and could arrange something.  There are plenty of
> damn good bands in the Bay Area who might volunteer for this kind of thing;
> I can think of a couple of candidates right away.

Maybe I'm missing something,  but why bother with recording
professional and semi-professional music, when you can just
as easily record your OWN voice  and send a digitized voice
message (as an e-mail enhancement)?

In order to prevent smart censorship  (i.e. altering LSBs
under you) one must design sort of crypto-CRC, or like...
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In message <199303201024.AA09757@well.sf.ca.us>, George A. Gleason writes:
> I get the idea that if this worked, the record would get a lot of interest
> including from a wider audience than cypherpunx, and that translates into
> attention on the band as such, and that translates into paying back the
> original production investment with interest.   So, anyone interested...?
> 
	For exactly this reason, I don't think that this is a very good
idea. The discussion here started as a search for a way to make
encrypted data not look like encrypted data. (Once it becomes illegal).
If encoding in LSBs becomes a famous technique, then once data
encryption becomes illegal searching the LSBs will become standard
procedure for that data cops.

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> In message <199303201024.AA09757@well.sf.ca.us>, George A. Gleason writes:
> > I get the idea that if this worked, the record would get a lot of interest
> > including from a wider audience than cypherpunx, and that translates into
> > attention on the band as such, and that translates into paying back the
> > original production investment with interest.   So, anyone interested...?
> > 
> 	For exactly this reason, I don't think that this is a very good
> idea. The discussion here started as a search for a way to make
> encrypted data not look like encrypted data. (Once it becomes illegal).
> If encoding in LSBs becomes a famous technique, then once data
> encryption becomes illegal searching the LSBs will become standard
> procedure for that data cops.

At which time we simply abandon this media.  But think of it.  Don't  you think
a record company would be interested in a new record-selling gimmic?  And they
have enough money.....er...I mean clout, ya that's it, to protect their new-
found gimmic.  Just my (last) $.02, Thanx for listening. ;^)

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