NODE ae39cd20Re: You Aren't [I'm Not]
Peter Honeyman <honey@citi.umich.edu>Wed, 3 Mar 93 18:24:15 PST
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 12:41:48 -0500
From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: You Aren't [I'm Not]
... I don't believe in
prior restraint; but I do believe in personal responsibility ...
... in this model, how can you provide personal responsibility?
ted, when you say you favor personal responsibility, do you mean
"i am in favor of people acting responsibly," which i take to be the
sense of the first quote, or do you mean "i want there to be a way to
hold people responsible for their actions," which i take to be the
meaning of the second?
(i favor the former, but am undecided about the latter. not that
anyone asked ...)
peter
ps: pardon my wild excerpting; i hope it doesn't obscure.
NODE 68df56e5Re: You Aren't [I'm Not]
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@Athena.MIT.EDU>Thu, 4 Mar 93 05:56:13 PST
From: Peter Honeyman <honey@citi.umich.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 21:22:27 EST
... I don't believe in
prior restraint; but I do believe in personal responsibility ...
... in this model, how can you provide personal responsibility?
ted, when you say you favor personal responsibility, do you mean
"i am in favor of people acting responsibly," which i take to be the
sense of the first quote, or do you mean "i want there to be a way to
hold people responsible for their actions," which i take to be the
meaning of the second?
Yes, I mean the second interpretation; what generally tends to happen is
that without the second, generally the first deteriorates over time.
And "holding somone responsible for their actions" doesn't necessarilly
mean throwing someone in jail, or sueing them for lots of money --- it
can be as simple as their knowing that what they say can be traced back
to them, and their own personal credibility is on the line. (As opposed
to some pseudonym's credibility, which can always be discarded and a new
one requested.)
- Ted