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NODE fa2b0722Meets 'n Greets fergp@sytex.com (Paul Ferguson)Tue, 20 Apr 93 22:41:11 PDT

On Tue, 20 Apr 93 10:54:00 -0700,
 Eric Hughes <uunet!soda.berkeley.edu!hughes> wrote -
 
EH> ANNOUNCEMENT
EH> ============
 
EH> Ad Hoc Cypherpunks Meeting on the recent Wiretap Chip proposal.
 
EH> Where: Cygnus Support, Mt. View (directions follow)
EH> When: 12:00 noon sharp - 6:00 p.m.
 
EH> I'm mad as hell.  I know that a lot of other folks are too.
 
 You're right, Eric -- we are mad as hell, too. But I'm not about to
 jump on a flight to the west coast to simply share strategies. The
 fact that I would even consider it negates the functions which we are
 working towards, no? I propose that us east coasters organize and
 meet as well. Pat and I are DC bourne, for those interested, I'd like
 to propose a DC local meeting. Suggestions? Keep in mind that I'm in
 NYC during the week, so my only available meeting times aare on the
 weekends. (By the way, lets get our shit together DC'ers. We need
 technologists, not lacidaisical idealisms.)
 
 Your DC based Cypherpunk group is hereby established. BTW, if anyone
 noticed, the EFF is drawing some serious fire by the public press.
 "Sold out to commercialism", one headline reads.
 
 Cheers.
 
 

Paul Ferguson                    |  Uncle Sam wants to read
Network Integration Consultant   |       your e-mail...
Alexandria, Virginia USA         | Just say "NO" to the Clipper
fergp@sytex.com                  |          Chip...

NODE 27ce5936Re: Meets 'n Greets Craig Nottingham <cnotting@cosmos.gmu.edu>Tue, 20 Apr 93 23:12:26 PDT

>  You're right, Eric -- we are mad as hell, too. But I'm not about to
>  jump on a flight to the west coast to simply share strategies. The
>  fact that I would even consider it negates the functions which we are
>  working towards, no? I propose that us east coasters organize and
>  meet as well. Pat and I are DC bourne, for those interested, I'd like
>  to propose a DC local meeting. Suggestions? Keep in mind that I'm in
>  NYC during the week, so my only available meeting times aare on the
>  weekends. (By the way, lets get our shit together DC'ers. We need
>  technologists, not lacidaisical idealisms.)
>  
>  Your DC based Cypherpunk group is hereby established. BTW, if anyone
>  noticed, the EFF is drawing some serious fire by the public press.
>  "Sold out to commercialism", one headline reads.
>  
>  Cheers.
> 
> Paul Ferguson                    |  Uncle Sam wants to read
> Network Integration Consultant   |       your e-mail...
> Alexandria, Virginia USA         | Just say "NO" to the Clipper
> fergp@sytex.com                  |          Chip...
> 
There is plenty of DC area support fr such a group.  The only problem
that presents it self is where to hold a meeting where there will be
no hassles.

In addition a thought that many people are overlooking-  the wiretap chip
transmissions of encrypted data would make a perfect envelope for the 
transfer of more secure information encrypted with powerful encryption
schemes.  There would be no easy way to tell the diffence between
pre-encypted transmissions and wiretap chip encrypted conversation.

~~~~~
Craig Nottingham                                       <cnotting@cosmos.gmu.edu>
-Reality is for people who lack imagination   NeXTmail<cnotting@gravity.gmu.edu>
-I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've
 always worked for me.                                     <=> Hunter S Thompson
-A good cap of acid costs five dollars and for that you can hear the Universal
 Symphony with God singing solo and the Holy Ghost on drums.    <=> H.S Thompson
~~~~~

NODE 0e23601eProliferating Cypherpunks Groups! tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)Tue, 20 Apr 93 23:26:27 PDT

Paul Ferguson writes:

>  You're right, Eric -- we are mad as hell, too. But I'm not about to
>  jump on a flight to the west coast to simply share strategies. The
>  fact that I would even consider it negates the functions which we are
>  working towards, no? I propose that us east coasters organize and
>  meet as well. Pat and I are DC bourne, for those interested, I'd like
>  to propose a DC local meeting. Suggestions? Keep in mind that I'm in
>  NYC during the week, so my only available meeting times aare on the
>  weekends. (By the way, lets get our shit together DC'ers. We need
>  technologists, not lacidaisical idealisms.)
>  
>  Your DC based Cypherpunk group is hereby established. BTW, if anyone

Hear, hear! We need more such groups!

I get occasional messages from folks bemoaning the fact that the
Silicon Valley seems to be where it's all happening. Well, it's easier
for *you folks* in other areas to pull together a local meeting than
it was for Eric Hughes and others of us to set up the first such
meeting last September. A list now exists and that helps a lot.

(I'll grant you that some of your communities may be more scattered
and out-of-touch with each other than our community was...it seems we
in the Bay Area mostly all know each other through frequent parties,
Hackers Conferences, science fiction groups and parties, high-tech
startups, Xanadu, VR, "Mondo 2000," "Wired," and so on. In other
less-interconnected areas, you may have to advertise well in advance
on this list and perhaps even elsewhere to reach enough like-minded
people. But not to sound snotty or anything, that's how your
"backwater" regions like Washington can become "happening" places like
our area....actually, this is a gross exaggeration, as D.C. has had a
very active "2600" group, as has NYC, so neither is a backwater.)

There are currently 3 groups holding physical meetings, that I know
of:

* Silicon Valley/San Francisco Bay Area, meeting since September.

* UK Cypherpunks, meeting in London since around December/January.

* Boston Cypherpunks, just had its first meeting recently.

There are several very active Cypherpunks in the Southern California
area, covering San Diego, LA, and as far north as Santa Barbara. Some
of them have asked us to have a Cypherpunks meeting down there, which
we may still do (personally, I favor some kind of "West Coast
Cypherpunks" meeting just before or just after the Crypto Conference
this summer, held as always in Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara is about
halfway between the two extremes, and is a nice place to meet.). 

But a better idea is for the SoCal Cypherpunks to form their own
group.

Likewise, the Washington, D.C. area seems a natural spot, as there are
several Cypherpunks that I know of off-hand who're in the area.

New York, too.

Well, you get the point. No permission is needed!

Good luck in these dark days.

-Tim May

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NODE 7029470bRe: Meets 'n Greets "$HOME/.sig" <kelly@pleiku.netcom.com>Wed, 21 Apr 93 02:55:38 PDT