800 number -- Clipper poll

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Subject: Clipper poll
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 12:00:09 PDT
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Communications Week magazine has a weekly telephone response poll.


This week's question is:


Do you agree with the Clinton administration's Public Encryption
Management dire
ctive for communications equipment?


Yes: 800-242-CWKY
No:  800-242-CWKN






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Of course, only Americans can dial those numbers.. which is a shame...  (A
few Canadians could have skewed the voting... :-)

On a note similar to remailers, has anyone ever given consideration to
creating an "outdial" service?  If I could dial long distance into the
States, and then be able to dial a 1-800 number that I cannot dial direct
from Canada (which is most) this would extremely useful...  Could be taken
a step further, and with automated billing a person could dial *any*
number and charge it back to their calling card (though this would not be
fully anonymous, is there a use for this??  I donno... as Caller ID
becomes more prevalent... maybe...)   I know law enforcement agents
use something like this for undercover operations, though I doubt they
figure in a long distance factor very often...  Anyway, something to think
about...

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On Fri, 30 Apr 1993, Mike Godwin wrote:

> Communications Week magazine has a weekly telephone response poll.
> 
> This week's question is:
> 
> Do you agree with the Clinton administration's Public Encryption
> Management directive for communications equipment?
> 
> Yes: 800-242-CWKY
> No:  800-242-CWKN

>On a note similar to remailers, has anyone ever given consideration to
>creating an "outdial" service?  [a redialer operation for telephones]

I've been wanting to do this for years.  As soon as we get a digital
coin system running, I'm going to work on getting one up in Berkeley.

There are some interesting issues here similar to remailers.  Fancy
schemes tend not to be all that secure because the in-band audio
signalling is not conducive to crypto.  Just having the redirection
service is enough now to disrupt Caller-ID.  When ISDN is standard,
you can you the money transaction on the D channel, out of band, and
digital.

Eric

> On a note similar to remailers, has anyone ever given consideration to
> creating an "outdial" service?  If I could dial long distance into the
> States, and then be able to dial a 1-800 number that I cannot dial direct
> from Canada (which is most) this would extremely useful...

In fact there used to be just such a number 206 945-2111 which
some kind soul in the state of Washington made available for
Canadians who wanted to call US numbers.  It gave a dial tone and
you dialed the 800 number...no charge.   You're right, *someone*
should do that again, it was sure handy.  (That number is now out
of service.)   A related question, is there some way to find the
identity of an 800 number holder, e.g. like a reverse phone directory?

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