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Names and Reputations

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NODE 268d0464Names and Reputations
J. Michael Diehl wrote:
 
    I'm having a philosophical problem regarding when to sign someone
    else's public key.
 
It strikes me that while a public key may be properly associated with
someone that you know by sight it may more generally be associated
with an abstract reputation. Connecting a face to a public key may
be less useful than connecting a public key with someone that
I recognize by reputation. I don't know Stephen Wolff by sight
but I do know him by reputation and have conversed with
him by e-mail. If during these conversations we had exchanged
public keys, even thru insecure channels, then that would be
more reliable than exchanging keys with someone that I met
in person who claimed to be Steve Wolff but with whom I did not
have time to converse. Steve's reputation with me arose thru a book
he wrote. If he had included his private key there it would be
better yet. (Public keys had not been invented then.)
Having been influenced by Steve's book I would be inclined to
accept Steve's opinions in related areas, if they were signed
by his private key. I need not know what Steve looks like!
 
In CyberSpace it ultimately seems that the public key supplants
ordinary names and all reputations are connected to public keys!
NODE 34cb294bRe: Names and Reputations
According to Norman Hardy:
> J. Michael Diehl wrote:
>     I'm having a philosophical problem regarding when to sign someone
>     else's public key.
>  
> It strikes me that while a public key may be properly associated with
> someone that you know by sight it may more generally be associated
> with an abstract reputation. Connecting a face to a public key may
> be less useful than connecting a public key with someone that
> I recognize by reputation. I don't know Stephen Wolff by sight
> but I do know him by reputation and have conversed with
> him by e-mail. If during these conversations we had exchanged
> public keys, even thru insecure channels, then that would be
> more reliable than exchanging keys with someone that I met
> in person who claimed to be Steve Wolff but with whom I did not
> have time to converse. Steve's reputation with me arose thru a book
> he wrote. If he had included his private key there it would be
> better yet. (Public keys had not been invented then.)
> Having been influenced by Steve's book I would be inclined to
> accept Steve's opinions in related areas, if they were signed
> by his private key. I need not know what Steve looks like!

This is a good point, but I believe that eventually, people will want to sign
legal documents via pgp and such.  So being able to tie a pseudonym to a 
reputation to a public key to a REAL LIVE PERSON is very important.  I think 
that for many people, your attitude is one they can live with.  This is what I
was debating when I posted the original question.  But for others, your policy
may not be secure enough.  I'm working on a key-signing policy for myself which
I will make available via finger or request.  Laters.

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