NODE 6ce138e8stegano codes.
TO1SITTLER@APSICC.APS.EDU (Kragen Sittler)Sun, 18 Jul 93 00:03:37 PDT
In reference to a message by Mike Johnson:
I was thinking of steganography as being in two stages: first, you encrypt,
(possibly with the identity transformation) then, you embed your encrypted
message in your medium of transmission. My previous message was describing
requirements for a strong encryption algorithm, quite apart from the actual
embedding. I stand by my statements: the purpose of steganography is to make
it difficult or impossible for an interloper to determine that enciphered data
are being transferred. Thus, embedding a magic number in the file defeats the
purpose completely.
(As opposed to "slightly reducing security.")
I accept your correction regarding availability of software.
I think that designing a program to embed this apparently random bitstream in
an innocent-looking file is a different and much harder problem.
It is probable that I have misunderstood some part of your message, and I
apologize if this is the case.
Kragen
(Bug my sysman for a newsreader that allows quoting with >'s-his username is jim.)
NODE cdb8d10cSTEG: subliminal messages
elee9sf@Menudo.UH.EDUTue, 20 Jul 93 06:16:24 PDT
> I was thinking of steganography as being in two stages: first, you encrypt,
> (possibly with the identity transformation) then, you embed your encrypted
> message in your medium of transmission. My previous message was describing
An interesting related topic is subliminal channels and messages. A
subliminal channel is one in which communication takes place without
an external observer realizing it.
The classic example is communication between two prisoners (I guess
they played the prisoner's dilemma and both wound up in jail anyway).
Two prisoners are allowed to communicate, but the warden is suspicious
so he intercepts all traffic, reads it, and then passes it on. The
prisoners demand that they be able to digitally sign messages to
prevent forgeries by the warden. The warden demands he be able to
read the messages (no PGP). All parties agree to these terms and the
communication begins.
Basically, the prisoners communicate in the open (the message readable
by the warden) but they also communicate with a "subliminal channel"
the warden isn't aware of: the digital signature. The prisoners sign
their messages in such a way as to communicate a few bits of
information with each message passed along. The digital signatures
can be verified, so the warden suspects nothing. Eventually, the
prisoners work out their stories and are released. :-)
As I remember, and I don't have the book here with me now, Seberry and
Peipryzk's book describes this, and gives several examples of
subliminal channel algorithms, of which I only recall El Gamal`s at
the moment. Perhaps Arto Salaama's "Public Key Cryptography" contains
more information.
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