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Free Electronic Cash

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NODE d74c39ecFree Electronic Cash
To: cypherpunks@toad.com

Be the first on your block to spend some electronic "near" cash.

If you are the first to read this post, you may be able to use up to $5 of 
electronic pseudo-cash.  I wanted to be the first to post some so it was 
worth $5 to me.

Yesterday I bought a Western Union Phone Card (tm) from my nearest Western 
Union money transfer agent.  It is good for about 8 minutes of phone calls 
anywhere in the continental US (fewer minutes of international calls).

To use the "cash:"

Call 1 (800) 374-8686

Wait for the tone

Dial the code 428 22 601

When you get a dial tone, dial the (area code) + phone-number of the 
number you wish to reach.  

The system will tell you how many minutes you have available for the call.

Western Union Phone Cards (tm) are available from any agent in $5, $10, 
$20, and $50 denominations.  They can be (must be) purchased for cash.  I 
have no idea whether Western Union saves the ANI info of incoming calls 
and cross indexes it with the outgoing number and the "account" number.

All that I ask is that the user(s) of this card send me email (anonymously 
if you like) so I can send back privacy consulting solicitations.

Duncan Frissell

Michael Elansky Defense Fund
25 Maiden Lane
West Hartford, CT 06117



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NODE 348b23cdRe: Free Electronic Cash
> Western Union Phone Cards (tm) are available from any agent in $5, $10, 
> $20, and $50 denominations.  They can be (must be) purchased for cash.  I 
> have no idea whether Western Union saves the ANI info of incoming calls 
> and cross indexes it with the outgoing number and the "account" number.

If you don't want your number being passed via ANI to the 800 number owner
and don't want it to appear on their monthly 800 bill statement, simply
use your local "0" operator to place the 1-800 call for you, it's free.
Simply state "Operator, I'm having problems dailing this call..etc.."
Readers of comp.dcom.telecom and 2600 magazine already know about this
neat little trick.  You can prove it to yourself by calling Full
Disclosure's 800 ANI Demo line (800-235-1414) first without using an
operator, and then with an operator and compare the results.

If you call Dial-A-Mattress (1-800-MATTRESS) with your ANI blocked they
will get crazy on you and hang up.  They are so used to seeing your number
on their screen, that when they can't, they go berzerk.  The reason they
have live ANI is because apparently they are a big target for pranksters
(pranksters ordering mattresses to other peoples houses instead of pizzas,
like the pranksters of years past).

> Michael Elansky Defense Fund
> 25 Maiden Lane
> West Hartford, CT 06117

I just sent $10 cash to them.  Better them than the corrupt EFF which
has been accepting kickbacks/bribes from AT&T and Pac Bell. Speaking of
which, has anyone bothered to contact the EFF/CPSR/ACLU about this case? 
It seems like a perfect 1st Ammendment issue, and I would personally love
to see the pigs who raided Mr. Elansky lose their jobs because of these
outrageous civil rights violations. 


Thug
NODE 5f44af15Re: Free Electronic Cash
> If you don't want your number being passed via ANI to the 800 number owner
> and don't want it to appear on their monthly 800 bill statement, simply
> use your local "0" operator to place the 1-800 call for you, it's free.
> Simply state "Operator, I'm having problems dailing this call..etc.."
> Readers of comp.dcom.telecom and 2600 magazine already know about this
> neat little trick.  You can prove it to yourself by calling Full
> Disclosure's 800 ANI Demo line (800-235-1414) first without using an
> operator, and then with an operator and compare the results.

I just tried this, both ways, and got my own home phone number repeated to
me, both times. Maybe they fixed this "bug"?

Happy Hunting, -Chris
<cdodhner@indirect.com>
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