(CuD) (CuNews) Smart Kard Forum

Does anyone know if these Smart Kards could be available via anonymous
cash transactions, like european telephone cards? 

Would any of these companies be open to ideas?

They don't list any address or references....          strick


------ Source: Computer underground Digest    Sun  Aug 22 1993   Volume 5 : Issue 64 ------

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 12:19:00 BST
From: grmeyer@GENIE.GEIS.COM
Subject: File 4--CuNews  ("Smart Kards," Comp Snooping at IRS/FBI, & more)

Smart Kards Are Coming
======================
A group of corporations, including MasterCard, Visa, Citicorp, Amex,
IBM, AT&T, Microsoft, and Apple, have formed the Smart Card Forum.
The cross-industry group will promote the use of smart-card technology
for payment, transit, health care, identification, and security
applications.
(Information Week August 9, 1993 pg 10)

Strick:
>Does anyone know if these Smart Kards could be available via anonymous
>cash transactions, like european telephone cards? 

Well, let's look at the applications.

>The cross-industry group will promote the use of smart-card technology
>for 

Not necessarily     identifying
  identifying       ===========
===============     health care
payment             identification
transit             security

My guess is that anonymity isn't even in their heads.

Eric

On Mon, 23 Aug 1993, Eric Hughes wrote:

> Strick:
> >Does anyone know if these Smart Kards could be available via anonymous
> >cash transactions, like european telephone cards? 
> 
> Well, let's look at the applications.
> 
> >The cross-industry group will promote the use of smart-card technology
> >for 
> 
> Not necessarily     identifying
>   identifying       ===========
> ===============     health care
> payment             identification
> transit             security
> 
> My guess is that anonymity isn't even in their heads.
> 
> Eric

"Overpopulation has led to ever-increasing governmental control over the
private citizen, not on the old-style police-state models of oppression
and terror, but in terms of work, credit, housing, retirement benefits,
and medical care: things which can be withheld. These services are
computerized. No number, no service. However, this has not produced the
brainwashed standardized human units postulated by such linear prophets as
George Orwell. Instead, a large percentage of the population has been
forced underground. How large, no one knows. These people are NUMBERLESS."

From _Blade Runner (a movie)_, William S. Burroughs, 1979, Blue Wind Press


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In <Pine.3.05.9308231918.D23466-b100000@stein.u.washington.edu> Steven Hodas <hhll@u.washington.edu> writes:

Actually Burroughs...

>"Overpopulation has led to ever-increasing governmental control over the
>private citizen, not on the old-style police-state models of oppression
>and terror, but in terms of work, credit, housing, retirement benefits,
>and medical care: things which can be withheld. These services are
>computerized. No number, no service. However, this has not produced the

>>From _Blade Runner (a movie)_, William S. Burroughs, 1979, Blue Wind Press

Actually I have work, credit, housing, retirement benefits, and medical care
and they don't have my (right) numbers.  Mostly they don't have any numbers.

It is all still possible.

Duncan Frissell

Practicing & Preaching Privacy since at least 1969.