NODE f36c9140Re: Secret network
swc@uc1.ucsu.edu (Stuart W. Card)Tue, 12 Oct 93 19:26:55 PDT
Alas, water pipes are much better for
1) noise and unintentional transmissions (which can be quite garbled
and no one cares), and
2) low frequency transmissions (which can carry only low bandwidth
communications).
Trying to transmit meaningful communications at high data rates
over water pipes would be a TREMENDOUS technical challenge,
requiring a vast amount of signal processing to compensate
for multipath reflections, impedance mismatches, thermal noise,
pickup of an almost variety of interference soures ces, infinite variety of interference sources. ,
nonstationary channel characteristics, intermittent grounds,
etc etc ad infinitum (or at least ad nauseam). Sorry about
the cold water, I have seriously considered this scheme and
believe that it can be used only for very short haul, very low
bandwidth communications (say intra-building at 300 baud). ,
although that's a guess not a simulation result).
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NODE 15cd85e7Re: Secret network
Matthew J Ghio <mg5n+@andrew.cmu.edu>Thu, 14 Oct 93 18:02:03 PDT
Stuart W. Card <swc@uc1.ucsu.edu> wrote:
> Trying to transmit meaningful communications at high data rates
> over water pipes would be a TREMENDOUS technical challenge,
> requiring a vast amount of signal processing to compensate
> for multipath reflections, impedance mismatches, thermal noise,
> pickup of an almost variety of interference soures...
Well, I'm sure that multipath reflections would cause wave interference
which would garbel whatever was modulated on that signal, however, the
carrier wave itself would still be detectable. Suppose you were to
broadcast a short burst of a signal at 250,000 hz into the water system.
You would get lots of echos, noise, etc, but it would still be
detectable as a 250,000 hz signal. It might not be possible to tell
exactly what that signal was, but you could still detect the frequency;
you could tell that, in fact, a 250,000 hz signal had been sent. Now
you could determine the minimum interval of time necessary between
bursts for the receiver to be able to identify them as seperate bursts.
Having done this, you could send 250,000 hz bursts at regular interals,
and then accompany some with 500,000 hz bursts (one bits) and leave the
other pulses without an accompanying transmission (zero bits). I'm not
really sure what frequencies would work best, that would probably have
to be determined experimentally.