Re: The death of the list as we know it (tm)

>I strongly support this idea, so I'll mention a further advantage:
>kill files! No more wading through boring message about anonymous
>remailers, digital cash an so on (or RSA weaknesses, or
>crypto-legality or whatever your personal bug happens to be).
        I really think that the powers that be should consider the newsgroup 
idea. The reasoning above is really the best justification, even though I'd 
personally kill the code and concentrate on the politics, that's just me. 
Newsreaders really have much better tools for handling this sort of traffic. 
(Back when my account was on msen.com, the absolute _only_ way I could possibly 
read this list was through the gateway to list.cypherpunks. My mailbox couldn't 
handle a subscription, and I was able to concentrate my time on the _good_ 
stuff instead of the noise.)
        To the people who say that Usenet has a worse s/n ratio than mail, I 
have two points. First, not all of Usenet has a bad s/n ratio (and this 
particular list _does_ have a _very_ bad s/n ratio). Second, the traditionally 
lower s/n ratio on Usenet has led to the development of better tools to deal 
with it than are available in mail. (I'd dearly love to see an ignore feature 
on this list, as I understand that the Extropians have, but I realize that's 
unrealistic. Even that wouldn't be as effective as a well-designed killfile.)
        I really think this idea deserves at least serious consideration.
--
Matthew B. Landry
ml7694a@american.edu
(Finally!) mbl@ml7694a.leonard.american.edu

>         To the people who say that Usenet has a worse s/n ratio than mail, I 
> have two points. First, not all of Usenet has a bad s/n ratio (and this 
> particular list _does_ have a _very_ bad s/n ratio). Second, the traditionally
> lower s/n ratio on Usenet has led to the development of better tools to deal 
> with it than are available in mail. (I'd dearly love to see an ignore feature
> on this list, as I understand that the Extropians have, but I realize that's 
> unrealistic. Even that wouldn't be as effective as a well-designed killfile.)

My mh gives me all the same capabilities as any newsreader. If you want to use
a newsreader, do the gatewaying at your own site. If cyperpunks becomes a
newsgroup, count on me dropping off.

	Julf

>  If cyperpunks becomes a  newsgroup, count on me dropping off.

 Ditto.

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Paul Ferguson                                                               
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