NODE cc319ea6Newbie reading: Bamberg
jamie@netcom.com (Jamie Dinkelacker)Thu, 7 Oct 93 18:19:21 PDT
Newbie cypheroids and cypherettes,
Tim May has pointed to _The Puzzle Palace_ by Bamberg several times here
and on the Extropians list. If like me you're a newbie, it's a quick,
excellent read. Don't miss it. It'll give context for the quote, "gentlemen
don't read each other's mail."
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Jamie Dinkelacker Palo Alto CA
Jamie@netcom.com 415.941.4782
NODE fceea99fBamford's "The Puzzle Palace"
tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)Thu, 7 Oct 93 18:59:19 PDT
> Newbie cypheroids and cypherettes,
>
> Tim May has pointed to _The Puzzle Palace_ by Bamberg several times here
^^^^^^^
> and on the Extropians list. If like me you're a newbie, it's a quick,
> excellent read. Don't miss it. It'll give context for the quote, "gentlemen
> don't read each other's mail."
"My name is Bamford, _James_ Bamford."
Bamford's "The Puzzle Palace" is a bit dry in places, but is very
well-researched. I first read it in hardback in 1982 and the stuff
about intercepts of commercial intelligence (stock trades, corporate
secrets, etc.) got me to thinking about how the NSA may be _using_
the fruits of its corporate intercepts. This motivated the plot of the
novel I've been working on, and my interest in the "BlackNet" aspects
of crypto, so I can honestly say Bamford's book changed my life.
He also describes in previously-nonpublicized detail the "Harvest" and
"Lodestone" systems installed at NSA headquarters at Fort Meade around
1963. Our own Norm Hardy was involved in this and will be describing
his "Harvest" experiences at this Saturday's Cypherpunks meeting.
See (some of) you there!
--Tim
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NODE d6223e5eThe ungalvanized understanding
ferguson@icm1.icp.net (Paul Ferguson x2044)Thu, 7 Oct 93 19:39:20 PDT
> He also describes in previously-nonpublicized detail the "Harvest" and
> "Lodestone" systems installed at NSA headquarters at Fort Meade around
> 1963. Our own Norm Hardy was involved in this and will be describing
> his "Harvest" experiences at this Saturday's Cypherpunks meeting.
>
> See (some of) you there!
Maybe. ,-)
I've wanted to "cut loose" and post a gut-load before this moment,
but perhaps it just wasn't appropriate at the time. Now that I've
seen all the puking about excessive posts etc., I've got to reiterate
why it is that list is important.
It is certainly not a community bulletin board for folks to just happen-in
and check out what's going on -- the traffic has always been too high for
that!
I've been here and will remain here through the mail-bombs (remember
our friend George?) and implicit/oblivious core dumps that result
in 5 mb mail sorties. ,-)
I live in an agenda called technology. Tim understands the implications
on the development of governments, cultures and history. I can only hope
that theose of you that tag along understand the extreme importance
that goes hand in hand, mano a mano. Peter Honeyman, John Draper,
John Gilmore, Eric Hughes, and the list of luminaries (no pun intended)
that DO hang on should clue you folks on the situation.
We're here. We're shifting -- forever, to secure our foundation in
cypherspace.
Where we were two or six or twelve months ago is no longer sufficient.
We move into positions which galvanize our foothold and grip on the
platforms which propel us.
From pauper to pawn. From knight to provocatuer.
The keepers of the keep. ,-)