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NODE 771c5787hohocon
I am wondering if anyone I plan to bring a  (cheap) laptop to I can
collect and trade (& sign) PGP keys

PS: I to not read all my cypherpunks email so if you reply keep "hohocon"
in the subject so I know to read it :-)
NODE d48a6fc8Re: hohocon
> 
> I am wondering if anyone I plan to bring a  (cheap) laptop to I can
> collect and trade (& sign) PGP keys

  John Draper has already expressed an interest in having everyone 
  exchange keys, and will probably mention this during his speech.
  I can guarantee there will be numerous laptops, and even full 
  systems avaialable. Last year, we even had 4-machine internet  
  site going - hohocon.com. Yeah, it was great for about 5 minutes
  until all the power in the wing went out.
NODE c7b98f03hohocon
Problem: how much trust do you have for a temporary site set up to give
Internet access?  Can you assure yourself they're not capturing your telnets
and remote logins?

At a recent SF con I attended, there was a rumor going around to the effect
that the admin was doing just this.  I found the idea disturbing but
eminently plausible.

--Alan Wexelblat, Reality Hacker, Author, and Cyberspace Bard
Media Lab - Advanced Human Interface Group	wex@media.mit.edu
Voice: 617-258-9168, Pager: 617-945-1842	PUBLIC KEY available by request
Try not to have a good time ... This is supposed to be educational.
NODE 0e221ef5Re: hohocon
"Alan (Gesture Man) Wexelblat" <wex@media.mit.edu> writes:
[regarding hohocon...]
> 
> Problem: how much trust do you have for a temporary site set up to give
> Internet access?  Can you assure yourself they're not capturing your telnets
> and remote logins?

Or can you be sure that anyone who might have access to any portion of the
physical wire at any conference isn't doing it?  Well, hohocon might be a
good place for the Austin Cypherpunks to test out a version of telnet and
ftp that should do Diffie-Hellman encryption, provided there is a machine
or two running a version of some PC freenix...   

For people at hohocon itself we will be passing out a first draft of a
"crypto infodisk" with collections of articles and information about
cryptography and the importance of strong encryption in the current debate.
Depending on how long it takes us to get things together we might also have
a crypto source disk for people.  If people can think of other things of
cypherpunk interest we might be able to put onto disks to pass around let
me know.

jim
NODE bdf06fcbRe: hohocon
> Problem: how much trust do you have for a temporary site set up to give
> Internet access?  Can you assure yourself they're not capturing your telnets
> and remote logins?
> 
> At a recent SF con I attended, there was a rumor going around to the effect
> that the admin was doing just this.  I found the idea disturbing but
> eminently plausible.
> 
> --Alan Wexelblat, Reality Hacker, Author, and Cyberspace Bard

We believe this happened recently at the Hackers Conference
(surprise!), when Internet access was provided on a machine that was
later found to have been cracked by someone.

--Tim May


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NODE 0c6cc450Re: hohocon
> > I am wondering if anyone I plan to bring a  (cheap) laptop to I can
> > collect and trade (& sign) PGP keys
> 
>   John Draper has already expressed an interest in having everyone 
>   exchange keys, and will probably mention this during his speech.
>   I can guarantee there will be numerous laptops, and even full 
>   systems avaialable. Last year, we even had 4-machine internet  
>   site going - hohocon.com. Yeah, it was great for about 5 minutes
>   until all the power in the wing went out.

hmm.. looks like the ideal for someone to test out a dos virus that
looks for the PGP passphrase and for secret key rings and tries to
"get out alive" with them.

                            Tim N.

Coders start your engines.
NODE abf00d37Re: hohocon
I'll be there with PGP 2.3a on my 286 laptop. Not the fastest system in 
the world, but I'm willing to sign the key of anyone I personally know or
who can present a valid state drivers' license.

Loyd

p.s. with photo

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