NODE 352bbbf0Usenet: 'Resistance Is Futile'
"Philippe Nave" <pdn@dwroll.dw.att.com>Tue, 9 Nov 93 14:33:15 PST
Regarding the recent question of whether the cypherpunks list is being
gatewayed to Usenet:
1) So what? I have always assumed that anything distributed to a group
of _any_ kind may wind up scattered all over the globe and may turn
up in unusual places. If the data is sensitive, encrypt it!
2) [Disclaimer: I know just enough Unix to get in trouble..] From what
I understand so far, all it takes is one cypherpunk and some magic
mail routing code to bounce cypherpunks list postings anywhere else
on the planet. If this cypherpunk bounced the traffic off an anonymous
remailer, you would never even be able to tell who was feeding the
other system. Unless I'm missing something, there seems to be no
defense possible against this activity.
3) I agree with the concern expressed by Tim May that we may be opened
up to 'disruptive flaming and puerile argumentation.' The only way
to avoid this problem [as far as I can tell] is to limit postings
to members of the mailing list. That's a tough one. Let us hope that
our coffee shop is not overrun by screaming children...
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Philippe D. Nave, Jr. | The person who does not use message encryption
pdn@dwroll.dw.att.com | will soon be at the mercy of those who DO...
Denver, Colorado USA | PGP public key: by arrangement.
NODE 624b9c1fRe: Usenet: 'Resistance Is Futile'
Tony A Rippy <tr2n+@andrew.cmu.edu>Tue, 9 Nov 93 16:43:14 PST
Dear All,
A little quote from Mr. Nave: "Let us hope that our coffee shop is
not overrun by screaming children..."
Excuse me if I get a tad bit offended by this. I am a computer
science student at Carnegie-Mellon University and I read several
internet b-boards. Most of the time I don't enter in arguments, or
"petty bickering" as it has been called. I just like to read other
people's ideas and see what's going on. I can see you guys getting
frustrated with thousands of repetative messages and postings, but do
you want to sanction of the rest of the world? I always thought (correct
me if I'm wrong) that you guys advocated the open exchange of
information and ideas via computer. Now you guys want to discuss the
advantages of free computer forums while excluding anyone else from your
little discussion? Sounds slightly hypocritical.
A Screaming Child,
Tony Rippy
tr2n+@andrew.cmu.edu
NODE 16591719Re: 'Resistance Is Futile'
"Philippe Nave" <pdn@dwroll.dw.att.com>Tue, 9 Nov 93 19:58:44 PST
>
> Dear All,
> A little quote from Mr. Nave: "Let us hope that our coffee shop is
> not overrun by screaming children..."
> Excuse me if I get a tad bit offended by this. I am a computer
> science student at Carnegie-Mellon University and I read several
> internet b-boards. Most of the time I don't enter in arguments, or
> "petty bickering" as it has been called. I just like to read other
> people's ideas and see what's going on. I can see you guys getting
> frustrated with thousands of repetative messages and postings, but do
> you want to sanction of the rest of the world? I always thought (correct
> me if I'm wrong) that you guys advocated the open exchange of
> information and ideas via computer. Now you guys want to discuss the
> advantages of free computer forums while excluding anyone else from your
> little discussion? Sounds slightly hypocritical.
>
> A Screaming Child,
> Tony Rippy
> tr2n+@andrew.cmu.edu
>
You're right. That _was_ a particularly stupid remark. I apologize.
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Philippe D. Nave, Jr. | The person who does not use message encryption
pdn@dwroll.dw.att.com | will soon be at the mercy of those who DO...
Denver, Colorado USA | PGP public key: by arrangement.