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Let's Talk About Solutions

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NODE 6f5be535Let's Talk About Solutions
In article <199311291601.LAA15061@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org "Mike Godwin" writes:
 > For some, adequate solutions may already be in place. But I note that for
 > "mere users" (as distinct from sophisticated users and programmers),
 > current filtering tools are difficult to use. What can make this better?

So, you have an objection to the net evolving into a technocratic class
system?  I see nothing wrong with letting people suffer who haven't the 
competancy to protect themselves for net.idiots.  That's practically the
entire basis of the Amercian enconomic system after all...

G
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NODE 325936f5Re: Let's Talk About Solutions
Graham Toal writes:

> So, you have an objection to the net evolving into a technocratic class
> system?

Well, yes. To the extent that tools remain the province of the elite,
it is politically easy to take them away from that elite. 


--Mike
NODE c88fbc4fRe: Let's Talk About Solutions
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> Graham Toal writes:

> > So, you have an objection to the net evolving into a technocratic class
> > system?

> Well, yes. To the extent that tools remain the province of the elite,
> it is politically easy to take them away from that elite. 

The cypherpunks welcome message (Eric Hughes, I suppose) seems to apply
here:

> Cypherpunks acknowledge that those who want privacy must
> create it for themselves and not expect governments, corporations, or
> other large, faceless organizations to grant them privacy out of
> beneficence.

So a cypherpunk strives to construct an effective technical defense
against the tyranny of the majority so that it is not ``politically
easy'' to deprive him of his privacy.

	John E. Kreznar		| Relations among people to be by
	jkreznar@ininx.com	| mutual consent, or not at all.

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NODE 4e13fca3Re: Let's Talk About Solutions
John Kreznar writes:

> against the tyranny of the majority so that it is not ``politically
> easy'' to deprive him of his privacy.
> 

That's part of it. But the other part is providing tools that everyone,
not just cypherpunks, can use.


--Mike