NODE 1824e86fForged messages part of "Operation"?
Mike Ingle <MIKEINGLE@delphi.com>Sun, 9 Jan 94 22:11:33 PST
"greg@ideath.goldenbear.com" writes:
>Someone recently posted a forged message with my name on it to the
>Cypherwonks list. In the future, all of my messages will be sent
>PGP-clearsigned. Please ignore (or mail to me) any messages which
>aren't - particularly if they appear to support Detweiler and his
>totalitarian schemes, which this particular forgery did.
>
>The header of the message in question was a byte-for-byte duplicate
>of an authentic header from a message I did write; apparently our
>favorite cyberspatial lunatic has moved beyond just signature blocks.
This message forging may be about to become a major problem. In his last
post "Current Operational Status", S.Boxx spewed forth:
(I hereby flame myself for quoting Detweiler - so don't bother)
---snip---snip---
Operation Octopus - this is the multiple pseudonym and agent project.
We plan to have at least a dozen (hence the name) posting
simultaneously to many different lists and the newsgroups. But the
overhead on this is very significant, and it will take us awhile to
gear up and build the infrastructure to the point we can `engage'. You
have seen more of these agents lately `out there', but our coordinated
attack will take some more planning.
Operation Duplicity - extremely top secret. Let's just say, you will be
seeing double, and triple, and quadruple, and ...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
---snip---snip---
If he starts flooding the newsgroups, what can we do about it?
I'd watch for forged messages and posts, and if you don't have a key
on the servers, check to make sure a forged one isn't posted.
--- Mike
NODE 53b20dc1Re: Forged messages part of "Operation"?
"Perry E. Metzger" <pmetzger@lehman.com>Mon, 10 Jan 94 05:31:24 PST
Mike Ingle says:
> If he starts flooding the newsgroups, what can we do about it?
If he starts forging mail from other people, he's committing a crime
and we can get his system administrators to pull his account.
Perry
NODE 0d2a150dHas the "an12070" Account been Revoked?
tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)Mon, 10 Jan 94 10:31:33 PST
> Mike Ingle says:
> > If he starts flooding the newsgroups, what can we do about it?
>
> If he starts forging mail from other people, he's committing a crime
> and we can get his system administrators to pull his account.
>
> Perry
Last week I complained to Julf about the semi-forged messages ("NAZI
ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS," etc.) that appeared from an12070's account but
with my name prominently attached and with my sig block at the end.
After receiving mail from readers in the various groups that Rotweiler
posted this crap to, including soc.culture.jewish and about a dozen
other groups (all independently posted, so a follow-up to one of them
did not reach the other sites), I decided he had gone too far, that
this was surely the "abuse" that Julf urges folks to report to him. So
I did.
I haven't heard back from Julf, but I also haven't seen an an12070/S.
Boxx posting for several days now, and Rotweiler has been ranting on
about S. Boxx "told him" that his account has been "cnesored" by that
evil and malicious TENTACLE OF THE MEDUSA, JULF. So, it may be that
Detweiler has finally gone too far, at least with his an12070 account.
Get ready for other accounts, and perhaps better forgeries--as perhaps
Greg Broiles has already seen.
I know I should be PGP-signing all my posts and e-mail but, frankly,
it's too much of a hassle. I typically read my mail and Usenet over a
dial-up line from my Mac at home to a Netcom machine, so signing my
messages with MacPGP (I don't trust using PGP on Netcom per se)
involves downloading the message, signing it, and then uploading
it....a major delay and hassle.
However, should the forgeries escalate, I may have to.
Or at least consider installing a lower-grade PGP in my Netcom account
and using that for on-line signings. Any incorporation of PGP into Elm
yet?
Interesting times we live in.
--Tim May
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NODE 02966251Re: Has the "an12070" Account been Revoked?
Johan Helsingius <julf@penet.fi>Mon, 10 Jan 94 10:55:09 PST
In short, yes.
> I haven't heard back from Julf, but I also haven't seen an an12070/S.
> Boxx posting for several days now, and Rotweiler has been ranting on
> about S. Boxx "told him" that his account has been "cnesored" by that
> evil and malicious TENTACLE OF THE MEDUSA, JULF. So, it may be that
> Detweiler has finally gone too far, at least with his an12070 account.
Yep. This evil and malicious tentacle has indeed blocked an12070. As well
as some other faked accounts probably belonging to the same individual
(who's identity I would of course never divulge ;-).
> I know I should be PGP-signing all my posts and e-mail but, frankly,
> it's too much of a hassle. I typically read my mail and Usenet over a
> dial-up line from my Mac at home to a Netcom machine, so signing my
> messages with MacPGP (I don't trust using PGP on Netcom per se)
> involves downloading the message, signing it, and then uploading
> it....a major delay and hassle.
Yeah. I'm currently in Boston, so I would have to transfer the stuff
a couple of times over the atlantic, download it into my 386SX, and
transfer it back. And to top everything off, my keyboard gave up. Sigh.
Julf