SQUISH IDIOCY

Quite a few people have been harassing me and my postmaster over this
ridiculous SQUISH idiocy that is bouncing and reverberating around the
net. (Unfortunately the `Medusa Meme' is very powerful and I believe
many people are imitating me in repropagating some of the `memes' I
originated for cheap thrills.)

However, I remind YOU, cypherpunks, that I am NOT responsible for
anything that comes out of YOUR remailers. If YOU wish to assault ME or
MY POSTMASTER (who has far better things to do with his time than deal
with YOUR smear campaigns and mailbombs) over anything that I post, YOU
must first prove that I posted it. but even if you do, if I posted it
through a remailer, I am NOT RESPONSIBLE. I remind you, THAT IS THE
POINT OF YOUR REMAILERS.

If YOU wish to believe that things that come out of YOUR remailers may
be ANONYMOUS DEATH THREATS or LIBEL or HARASSMENT of different mailing
lists I encourage YOU to rethink YOUR design. YOU have made YOUR
remailers. they are YOUR tool. If YOU blame ME for ANYTHING that comes
out of YOUR remailers, if YOU hold ME ACCOUNTABLE, it only proves what
drenched, permeated, rotten, noxious HYPOCRITES YOU are. 

YOU who advocate that no one is responsible for anything on the net,
YOU are the ones who are yelling and ranting at ME and MY POSTMASTER,
about idiocy that YOU are responsible for.

Do YOU really think that *anything* can be posted without ANYONE being
accountable? YOU cypherpunks, YOU are nothing but drenched, permeated,
rotton, noxious IDIOTS. Even J. Helsingius, operator of the most
reliable anonymous site ever, has apparently censored S.Boxx in
response to YOUR pressure. Doesn't it bother you to realize that your
most treasured beliefs, the most sacred elements of your religion, are
nothing but LIES? YOU have clung to the illusion that no one is
accountable for anything, when in fact YOU VIOLATE and DEBASE YOUR OWN
SACRED RELIGION.

YOU are now going to blame ME for ANYTHING that crosses your path, that
even mildly displeases YOU.

I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN BLACK KARMA.

Ken McGlothlen writes:
 > [DetCrap deleted]
 >
 > For this reason, I'm going to start rejecting any mail coming from an anonymous
 > remailer.  I've just gotten to the point where any potential usefulness is
 > totally outweighed by their inconvenience and the inability to filter the
 > ani-for-brains who persist in abusing them.  Unless someone can come up with a
 > way to make them useful again, I just can't see any reason to read 'em.

     I've considered this option as well, but that is precisely what
Detweiler wants people to do: stop using anonymous remailers.  I
advocate the following alternatives:

          - Cypherpunks should use software such as is used by the
            extropians list.  This allows each subscriber to ignore
            specific people or threads more easily than by using a
            local filter.  I believe it also requires that each
            address used by a subscriber be registered.  This could
            be modified to allow messages to be posted anonymously
            by the server but also allow exclusion of such posts
            by users.

          - People who value anonymity and want to prevent SQUISH-
            like abuses could run modified remailers that allow the
            rejection of messages from particular sites.  If enough
            such remailers were available, they could also agree to
            reject messages from remailers without anti-abuse
            policies.  If enough people think this is worth the
            effort it could result in several different sets of
            remailers, each with different policies -- emergent law.

          - If you feel that a posting is out of line and you're
            reasonably certain of its origin, send email to the
            responsible party, his/her postmaster, and anyone else
            who might have an impact on the problem.  Enough people
            doing this will at least waste some of the offender's
            time and slow down the abuses.  While I respect the
            postmaster's support of free speech, I suggest that
            those affected by the exercise of that right are
            justified in exercising that right in return.  A
            working anarchy depends on such feedback.

     If anyone running the services mentioned above is interested in
making the modifications suggested but lacks the time, drop me a line.
I'll be happy to donate some coding time to this issue.

     If any of this doesn't make sense, I blame my cold medicine.

Regards,

Patrick May

ld231782@longs.lance.colostate.edu ("Anus-for-brains") writes:

| However, I remind YOU, cypherpunks, that I am NOT responsible for anything
| that comes out of YOUR remailers. If YOU wish to assault ME or MY POSTMASTER
| (who has far better things to do with his time than deal with YOUR smear
| campaigns and mailbombs) over anything that I post, YOU must first prove that
| I posted it. but even if you do, if I posted it through a remailer, I am NOT
| RESPONSIBLE. I remind you, THAT IS THE POINT OF YOUR REMAILERS.
| 
| If YOU wish to believe that things that come out of YOUR remailers may be
| ANONYMOUS DEATH THREATS or LIBEL or HARASSMENT of different mailing lists I
| encourage YOU to rethink YOUR design. [...]

I'm beginning to think that he's right.  Not that he isn't responsible for
anything he ships through the remailers, but that the remailers should be
redesigned, because it's becoming clear that boneheads such as Detweiler rob
such remailers of any potential usefulness through their abuse.

For this reason, I'm going to start rejecting any mail coming from an anonymous
remailer.  I've just gotten to the point where any potential usefulness is
totally outweighed by their inconvenience and the inability to filter the
ani-for-brains who persist in abusing them.  Unless someone can come up with a
way to make them useful again, I just can't see any reason to read 'em.

				---Ken McGlothlen
				   mcglk@cpac.washington.edu
				   mcglk@cpac.bitnet