NODE 375b42e4Re: Public key encryption, income tax and government
Carl Ellison <cme@sw.stratus.com>Tue, 11 Jan 94 08:21:44 PST
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In article <jdurr-100194200236@nubs92.ccs.itd.umich.edu> jdurr@eland.com (J. Durr) writes:
>
>from Strategic Investment, p 11, November 11 1993
>
>Escape to Cypherspace:
>The Information Revolution and the demise of the income tax
>
>by James Bennett
>
>The ultimate revenge of the Nerds
>
> Readers of Strategic Investment are already aware of the crucial
>role of the microchip in eroding the power of governments over their
>citizens. Recent developments herald an expansion of this role that
>promises to dwarf the effects seen to date.
>[...] in
>the coming decade, it may create consequences which change the life of
>everyone on the planet more than the atomic bomb.
Mr. Bennett is clearly a victim of the popular impression that privacy is
somehow new. Anything which can be done with public key encryption can be
done already with private communications (whispers, notes which are mailed
and destroyed, secret mail drops, couriers, secret-key encryption, ...).
All the hype over cryptoanarchy is overblown. We are capable of anarchy,
income tax evasion and secret bank accounts today. Look around you. How
much of that do you see in your own life? What makes you think that you'll
see any more of it in 10 years?
- Carl
P.S. His claim that RSA markets RIPEM was humorous -- but sad. Maybe it's
always like this when the general public gets interested in something
technical.
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NODE 3300ef94Re: Public key encryption, income tax and government
"Perry E. Metzger" <pmetzger@lehman.com>Tue, 11 Jan 94 08:45:15 PST
Carl Ellison says:
> Mr. Bennett is clearly a victim of the popular impression that privacy is
> somehow new. Anything which can be done with public key encryption can be
> done already with private communications (whispers, notes which are mailed
> and destroyed, secret mail drops, couriers, secret-key encryption, ...).
>
> All the hype over cryptoanarchy is overblown. We are capable of anarchy,
> income tax evasion and secret bank accounts today. Look around you. How
> much of that do you see in your own life? What makes you think that you'll
> see any more of it in 10 years?
Currently, if you wish to sit down in a Cafe with a friend of yours
and hand over $10,000 for the original copy of Vince Foster's diary,
say, and you want privacy, you would either have to carry cash (which
is difficult to put into and take out of banks without machinations,
especially given current reporting requirements), or one of you would
have to trust the other with a foreign bank check which would have to
be deposited by mail (a long and tedious and unsafe proceedure), or
you could both sit down with your HP100s or Psions or what have you
and exchange digicash right on the table and relay the deposit right
to your bank in the Bahamas. Yes, all the methods exist already -- but
they are inconvenient to use. I could probably have rigged hundreds of
messengers and teams of horses so that I could live atop a mountain
and still run a worldwide business one two hundred years ago. In
principle, nothing that I can do now couldn't be done then. In
practice, transaction costs and delays would have made such a life
impractical -- whereas now a mogul has fax machines, phones,
computers, etc.
Cryptography and the nets will not make offshore banking different in
any way other than convenience -- but never underestimate the powerful
impact convenience can have. I could potentially carry out a near
"normal" lifestyle while still keeping all my money offshore -- this
is a new and potent developement, and one which governments will fight
very hard. Look for ever more agressive work by the IRS to pressure
bank havens to breech secrecy.
Perry