Making unsubscribes easier

As with many mailing lists, we get a lot of mail about
subscribes and unsubscribes.  Perhaps we should make it
easier for people to get off the list, or at least find out
where the list maintainer really is.  Some possible approaches:

1) Add a header line to all the postings saying something like
	X-Send-Subscription-Requests-To: cypherpunks-request@toad.com

2) Add a dummy subscriber to the list that greps for "subscribe"
	in Subject lines and uses the vacation-mailer to reply.

	Some untested code that should work:
	
	#!/bin/sh
	# Subscription-Request-Bouncer
	# Set your .forward file to read
	#	| subscription-bouncer
	# and activate by running vacation -I
	# and putting a useful message in $HOME/.vacation.msg
	#
	cat $* > /tmp/msg.$$
	if egrep -i 'Subject:.*subscri' /tmp/msg.$$
	then /usr/ucb/vacation -t1d cypherpunks-info < /tmp/msg.$$
	fi
	rm /tmp/msg.$$

	# You may be able to make this work with the username
	# in the vacation command set to cypherpunks-request

3) One problem with standard listserv and majordomo software is that
	it tends to believe addresses as given, without munging
	anXXXXX into naXXXXX or other subtleties for subscription
	(though it can at least forward requests from different 
	addresses to a moderator, etc.)
	- can they handle this, or at least be given the job of 
	unsubscribing people?
	- do they have any forgery-detection capability?  Otherwise
	some rude person could try unsubscribing lots of people.
	The austin-cypherpunks listserv sent me a password for use
	with the listserv; is this code available?
	
			Thanks;  Bill
			
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I know that Majordom will allow you to create a private list.  The list 
admin must add new subscriptions, but users are able to remove themselves 
without admin intervention.  Of course, MD has the problem in that if the 
person requests unsubscription from a different address than they are at, 
it will choke with a 'Subscription not found'.

Also, you can set the list to be completely closed so that persons who 
aren't subscribed cannot post, but that does eliminate remailers from 
contributing.

I don't know off-hand what type of software this list is based on, so 
this is probably all irrelevant.

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On Sun, 23 Jan 1994 wcs@anchor.ho.att.com wrote:

> As with many mailing lists, we get a lot of mail about
> subscribes and unsubscribes.  Perhaps we should make it
> easier for people to get off the list, or at least find out
> where the list maintainer really is.  Some possible approaches:
> 
> 1) Add a header line to all the postings saying something like
> 	X-Send-Subscription-Requests-To: cypherpunks-request@toad.com
> 

Wouldn't it just be easier to make it so you post to 
cypherpunks-requests@toad.com and unsub and all that to cypherpunks@toad.com?
	I don't mind just hitting the 'd' key either way... ;)