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> From: William Thompson <billy@EDU.Berkeley.ocf> > Subject: unsubscribe > To: cypherpunks@com.toad > Sender: owner-cypherpunks@com.toad > > please unsubscribe me. > > From: Tom Cropper <tomc@org.satelnet.sefl> > Subject: unsubscribe > To: cypherpunks@com.toad > Sender: owner-cypherpunks@com.toad > > unsubscribe > Could someone remind me if there is a special address to mail to get of this list, or is it just that requests take time to be processed ?
R.O.Jackson-SE1@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk says: > Could someone remind me if there is a special address to mail to get > of this list, or is it just that requests take time to be processed ? Unsubscribe requests should be sent to cypherpunks-request@toad.com. One should expect that requests will take quite a while (over a week) to get processed. One should not expect faster service by posting to the whole list. .pm
PLEASE READ! (sorry to shout) All subscription requests should be sent to cypherpunks-request@toad.com This is an address that is personally handled, by hand, by Eric Hughes (thank you, Eric :-) I may take upwards of a week for Eric to process request, as he is a busy man (boy, do I know the feeling). If you want more information, I suggest you go reread RFC's 1325 and 1396, as well as FYI 17 about mailing lists. These are available via anonymous ftp from venera.isi.edu:/in-notes Thank you! -derek
About half a dozen messages like this one are posted here every week: > PLEASE READ! (sorry to shout) > > All subscription requests should be sent to cypherpunks-request@toad.com Despite this, every day there are several "Unsubscribe me, NOW!" messages, with various degrees of politeness. Folks, I am not going to repeat the instructions again. This is becuase of the following conclusions I have reached: 1. The list is divided into two basic classes of readers: those who read some or all of the messages, and those who skip most articles and don't pay attention to what they read. 2. Those who read many of the messages then see these instructions over and over again. 3. Those who don't read the messages, don't see or understand or have a general clue about the instructions. 4. It is usually these folks who want off the list urgently. As others have noted so many times, they have no clue as the general netiquette for getting on and off lists (apparently even forgetting that they got ON the list by sending a request to "cypherpunks-request@toad.com"). MAJOR CONCLUSION: All of the "helpful" instructions, including this very message, are useless, as the folks who need to receive them are demonstrably not bothering to receive them. Draw your own conclusions. --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power:2**859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available.
> > About half a dozen messages like this one are posted here every week: > > > PLEASE READ! (sorry to shout) > > > > All subscription requests should be sent to cypherpunks-request@toad.com > > > Despite this, every day there are several "Unsubscribe me, NOW!" > messages, with various degrees of politeness. > > Folks, I am not going to repeat the instructions again. This is > becuase of the following conclusions I have reached: ... I've seen before, and if I breakdown and write my own software I'm going to improve on, mailing list software that refuses to send messages to the list that look suspicious. Rules like: <3 lines non-blank body, occurance of remove, me, unsubscribe, help, subscribe, etc. These generate a message giving details, and of course you could even guess what the person wanted. Looks like a necessary evolution in net software... I typically try reasonable auto commands for a new mailing list until I know there's a person there. sdw -- Stephen D. Williams Local Internet Gateway Co.; SDW Systems 513 496-5223APager LIG dev./sales Internet: sdw@lig.net sdw@meaddata.com OO R&D Source Dist. By Horse: 2464 Rosina Dr., Miamisburg, OH 45342-6430 Comm. Consulting ICBM: 39 34N 85 15W I love it when a plan comes together
> I've seen before, and if I breakdown and write my own software I'm > going to improve on, mailing list software that refuses to send > messages to the list that look suspicious. Rules like: > > <3 lines non-blank body, occurance of remove, me, unsubscribe, help, > subscribe, etc. Majordomo already does that pretty well. Julf