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TEMPEST - Electronic eavesdropping

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NODE b0dc2f4fTEMPEST - Electronic eavesdropping
Transient Electromagnetic Pulse Emanation Standard (TEMPEST) is the
US standard defining the amount of electromagnetic radiation that a
device may emit without compromising the information it is 
processing.

In the US it not illegal to posess TEMPEST-surveillance equipment but
it is illegal to take appropriate counter-measures to prevent 
surveillance. The US government has refused to release details of its
TEMPEST research and has restricted the dissemination of independent 
research by classifying it.

The US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) makes use of TEMPEST secured
electronics and computers as they believe that the drug cartels may
possess surveillance equipment.

I am interested in gathering comments on the social, legal, ethical,
and technical aspects of use of TEMPEST surveillance equipment in
the US and Europe with the aim of including it in a discussion
of the threats to computer/digital systems.



Please reply by E-mail. I will provide a summary to anybody who
requests one.

thanks, 	- Rob Jackson

(more information on TEMPEST can be found in the paper
 "Eavesdropping On the Electromagnetic Emanations of Digital
  Equipment: The Laws of Canada, England, and the US" by
  Cristopher Seline - available on FTP from csrc.ncsl.nist.gov)
NODE fca66c32Re: TEMPEST - Electronic eavesdropping
R.O.Jackson-SE1@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk says:
> In the US it not illegal to posess TEMPEST-surveillance equipment but
> it is illegal to take appropriate counter-measures to prevent 
> surveillance.

This is not true. This is an urban legend that doesn's of fools keep
posting over and over again. There is nothing illegal against
shielding your equipment -- in fact you are legally obliged to reduce
emmissions so as not to interfere with radio and TV signals.

Perry
NODE 30988d3cTEMPEST - Electronic eavesdropping
>In the US it not illegal to posess TEMPEST-surveillance equipment but
>it is illegal to take appropriate counter-measures to prevent 
>surveillance. 

Can we get the urban folklore set clued into this one?

Electromagnetic shielding is not illegal.  On the contrary, in the
USA, the FCC finds shielding highly desirable.

Eric
NODE fc21c49fRe: TEMPEST - Electronic eavesdropping
> In the US it not illegal to posess TEMPEST-surveillance equipment but
> it is illegal to take appropriate counter-measures to prevent 
> surveillance. The US government has refused to release details of its

Please provide a reference for this. We've discussed this _many_ times
on this List, and the consensus is that no such law exists, nor is it
plausible that folks could be told they cannot "shield" their
computers.

(In fact, FCC regulations call for various levels of RF shielding, as
we all know. Is there a law which says "You must shield--but not _too_
much"? Of course not.)

I don't want to sound rude, but saying it is illegal to take
appropriate counter-measures to prevent surveillance is a serious
statement, requiring some support. (I'll look for the ftp paper
you cite later...do you have a pathname handy in the nist ftp site?)

I can believe that _certain_ countermeasures, like active jamming with
RF signals, may be somewhat restricted, but mainly for FCC reasons. I
cannot believe that shielding a keyboard or computer, or using LCD
displays to reduce Van Eck emissions, or even putting one's computer
in a Faraday cage, could be illegal. 

> TEMPEST research and has restricted the dissemination of independent 
> research by classifying it.

Parts of the TEMPEST spec (and TEMPEST is not an acronym for anything,
I understand) are classified, for various reasons, but this does not
mean shielding or other countermeasures are forbidden. In fact,
shielding supplies and TEMPEST-related supplies can be bought from
several companies. Every time this thread comes up, someone cites the
suppliers.
 
> The US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) makes use of TEMPEST secured
> electronics and computers as they believe that the drug cartels may
> possess surveillance equipment.

I'll phone Pablo Escobar and ask him.

> I am interested in gathering comments on the social, legal, ethical,
> and technical aspects of use of TEMPEST surveillance equipment in
> the US and Europe with the aim of including it in a discussion
> of the threats to computer/digital systems.
> 
> thanks, 	- Rob Jackson
> 
> (more information on TEMPEST can be found in the paper
>  "Eavesdropping On the Electromagnetic Emanations of Digital
>   Equipment: The Laws of Canada, England, and the US" by
>   Cristopher Seline - available on FTP from csrc.ncsl.nist.gov)

Lots of interesting stuff there. But where is the paper you cite? A
pathname would be appreciated.

--Tim May


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NODE 477e2889Re: TEMPEST - Electronic eavesdropping
OK, I've just reread the Seline paper Rob Jackson was referring to
(available by ftpat csrc.ncls.nist.gov::/pub/secpubs/tempest.txt--my
thanks to Rob for providing the pathname to me). I say "reread"
because this is the same 1990 paper that's been reposted several times
to sci.crypt and here to the Cypherpunks list.

Earlier I said, quoting Rob:

> 
> > In the US it not illegal to posess TEMPEST-surveillance equipment but
> > it is illegal to take appropriate counter-measures to prevent 
> > surveillance. The US government has refused to release details of its
> 
> Please provide a reference for this. We've discussed this _many_ times
> on this List, and the consensus is that no such law exists, nor is it
> plausible that folks could be told they cannot "shield" their
> computers.
...stuff elided...

Indeed, most of the Seline paper is devoted to the fact that the
TEMPEST spec itself is classified, which is undoubtedly true. And the
(unconfirmed) assertion that mere possession of RF intercepting gear
that could be used to defeat TEMPEST is illegal.

(I have doubts about this, given the various types of RF receivers,
old television sets with manual tuners, etc. I suppose that if one
were caught with an antenna, a tunable CRT able to "tune in" the
emissions of a nearby--or distant--computer or CRT and display them
the way the NSA's ELINT gadgets undoubtedly do, then this might be
considered evidence of criminal intent--like burglar tools,
password-cracking tools, etc. [And we've had this debate many times as
well, with some saying possession of lockpicking tools is legal,
others saying it's not, etc.])

However, nothing in the Seline report, flawed as it is (IMO), says "it
is illegal to take appropriate counter-measures to prevent
surveillance." That is, go ahead and shield away!

What I think the government is saying is this, and I have no idea if
this is in fact law or if it would hold up in court:

* First, we (the government) have a TEMPEST spec we use to build
equipment to. It tells our vendors how good their stuff has to be. We
don't tell the public this spec, because this would help the Russkies
and the Yellow Hordes, not to mention the French.

* Second, we (your public servants) have our own tricks and techniques
and dislosing the TEMPEST specs would provide damaging information to
our opponents (the Mob, the Serbs, the Cypherpunks, and the
Republicans)--so we aren't talking. And we insist TEMPEST contractors
also keep their mouths shut.

* Third, we (us again) will not allow _eavesdropping_ equipment to be
publically sold, whether for intercepting cellular phone calls, CRT
emissions, whatever. You may find loopholes (telephoto lenses and
giant parabolic mikes, so beloved of dicks), but we've basically
outlawed this stuff.

(sorry if my irreverent tone and change of point of view is confusing
here)

So, nothing about shielding or monitoring emissions (commercial RF
leakage equipment is widely available and measures stuff down many dB
from the unshielded level). Just don't build a Van Eck gadget and let
others know about it (though, again, it's not clear how the courts
would rule on this). And don't disclose TEMPEST specs.

For Cypherpunks, not too much to worry about. We don't want or need to
play at being spooks by monitoring nearby systems, and shielding is
available.

That it's not used much, that we are "soft targets" for determined
surveillance teams, and that we use PGP on insecure machines, etc., is
all well-known. Everything has a cost, and most of us don't perceive a
direct enough threat to our communications and computers to warrant
working inside a local, Faraday-caged machine, keeping passwords in a
separate laptop we carry with us at all times, etc. What's important
for us is to get crypto tools spread ubiquitously. The rest can come later.


--Tim May


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