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Re: Oh No! Nazis on the Nets

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NODE c9cca55bRe: Oh No! Nazis on the Nets
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an57322@anon.penet.fi wrote:

> a country in which the government is so fascist to make it illegal for
> someone to tell you how to start your own paper? 

Do you really believe such a nonsense ????

What kind of propaganda are you doing here?

Both right-wing and left-wing use computer networks 
(and perhaps anon.penet.fi and the cypherpunks 
mailing list... ), this is true and dangerous,
but it never was illegal to 'tell you how to start
your own paper' .



Hadmut 

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NODE 772b7eb5Re: Oh No! Nazis on the Nets
So, just to clear this up, if you wanted to start a newspaper today,
could you simply print out a few hundred copies of whatever you wanted
to say and go out and sell it (or give it away) without any
interaction with the government?  (I don't know the answer for
Germany; I'm genuinely curious.  I hope the answer is "yes".)

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NODE 8d497c5bRe: Oh No! Nazis on the Nets
> > a country in which the government is so fascist to make it illegal for
> > someone to tell you how to start your own paper? 
> 
> Do you really believe such a nonsense ????

Of course. But did you know that in the USA it is illegal for a married couple
to have anal intercourse even in their own home? Or that it is illegal
to belong to a communist party? Or that you can get in trouble for
using the word "stewardess".

Oh yes, ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

	Julf
NODE 0441fb9aRe: Oh No! Nazis on the Nets
Johan Helsingius says:
> 
> > > a country in which the government is so fascist to make it illegal for
> > > someone to tell you how to start your own paper? 
> > 
> > Do you really believe such a nonsense ????
> 
> Of course. But did you know that in the USA it is illegal for a
> married couple to have anal intercourse even in their own home? Or
> that it is illegal to belong to a communist party? Or that you can
> get in trouble for using the word "stewardess".

You can be a member of the communist party, actually, although many
laws holding that you can be harrassed by the government for it are
still on the books. Sexual relations are governed by state law, so
only in some states are consentual acts illegal -- in many all
consentual acts between married partners are legal. However, the point
is well taken. The U.S. is not a libertarian paradise.

I will note, however, that the U.S. has far better press freedoms than
almost any other country on earth, and that Germany is pretty damn bad
about freedom of the press. I can walk into any book store in America
and buy a copy of Mein Kampf -- and although I hate Adolf Hitler's
works, I am happy that I can read them if I so choose. I cannot do
things like that in Germany.

.pm
NODE b7665ed1Re: Oh No! Nazis on the Nets
Julf jokes:
 
> Of course. But did you know that in the USA it is illegal for a married couple
> to have anal intercourse even in their own home?

Only in some, less enlightened states. And the states that do have such
laws rarely enforce them.

>Or that it is illegal
> to belong to a communist party?

This is legal in all 50 states. It is unconstitutional to outlaw
membership in a political party.

> Or that you can get in trouble for
> using the word "stewardess".

But not legal trouble.


--Mike