Re: Oh No! Nazis on the Nets

Perry E. Metzger says:

> In the U.S., it is perfectly lawful for me to print a newspaper
> ANONYMOUSLY, and sell it on streetcorners. Indeed, I may print
> anything I wish anonymously, be it a book, a magazine, or a newspaper.


So? If you find a paper with YOUR face, YOUR name and big 
letters KILL THIS MAN FOR BEING A JEW, would you think
this is okay?

Would you give out PGP for mailing such calls encyphered?

> Do you not have to register your newspaper?

No, we don't. This is not true. Who told you this tale?


Is it "freedom of press" if someone tells american people
that germans would have to register their newspapers?


Hadmut

Hadmut writes:

> So? If you find a paper with YOUR face, YOUR name and big 
> letters KILL THIS MAN FOR BEING A JEW, would you think
> this is okay?
 
Yes. Freedom of the press means freedom for hateful ideas.
Or it means nothing at all.


--Mike

Hadmut Danisch says:
> 
> Perry E. Metzger says:
> 
> > In the U.S., it is perfectly lawful for me to print a newspaper
> > ANONYMOUSLY, and sell it on streetcorners. Indeed, I may print
> > anything I wish anonymously, be it a book, a magazine, or a newspaper.
> 
> 
> So? If you find a paper with YOUR face, YOUR name and big 
> letters KILL THIS MAN FOR BEING A JEW, would you think
> this is okay?

You are asking if I think it is okay, which is different from asking
if it should be legal. I don't think its "okay" to advocate, say,
Naziism. However, I don't see that it should be ILLEGAL to advocate
Naziism. If a newspaper published an article saying that jews should
be killed, I would indeed say that this should be legal. I'm quite
certain that I dislike it.

Perry

On Fri, 11 Feb 1994, Hadmut Danisch wrote:

> 
> Perry E. Metzger says:
> 
> 
> So? If you find a paper with YOUR face, YOUR name and big 
> letters KILL THIS MAN FOR BEING A JEW, would you think
> this is okay?
> 
> Would you give out PGP for mailing such calls encyphered?
> 
	Oh bullshit, dont try that argument.  If that was they way the 
world operated we would be eating raw meat in a cave still.  The tools 
are NOT evil and should be distributed.  It's how you use them that can 
be bad.

> > Do you not have to register your newspaper?
> 
> No, we don't. This is not true. Who told you this tale?
> 
> 
> Is it "freedom of press" if someone tells american people
> that germans would have to register their newspapers?
> 
	No, it's inherent to freedom of press, meaning sometimes we get 
lied to apparantly this was one of those times, but it's not "freedom of 
press" persey.

> 
> Hadmut
> 
	Can we cut the politickin out or is this normal?  I mean I know 
politics play a major role in cryptography, but throwinf explitives about 
Nazis isnt really conductive to good encrytian development.


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