NODE 4fc6e3f3No Subject
koontzd@lrcs.loral.com (David Koontz )Fri, 4 Feb 94 17:05:20 PST
Subject: clipper_q-and-a.txt
>Q. Who will hold the escrowed keys?
>. The government.
All this bullshit doesnot state that a court order is required, rather
'legal authorization', which means the NSA for foreign intellingence
purposes without a court order.
Perhaps what is needed is statuatory protection to prevent the NSA
from eavesdropping on U.S. Citizens, communicating domestically,
without a court order.
Lets close a loop hole - no more SHAMROCK
NODE b5154fb2Re: your mail
Mike Godwin <mnemonic@eff.org>Sat, 5 Feb 94 07:40:15 PST
David Koontz writes:
> All this bullshit doesnot state that a court order is required, rather
> 'legal authorization', which means the NSA for foreign intellingence
> purposes without a court order.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) requires a court order
for such taps.
--Mike
NODE f5e82fa0Re: your mail
"Perry E. Metzger" <pmetzger@lehman.com>Mon, 7 Feb 94 07:36:37 PST
Mike Godwin says:
>
> David Koontz writes:
>
> > All this bullshit doesnot state that a court order is required, rather
> > 'legal authorization', which means the NSA for foreign intellingence
> > purposes without a court order.
>
> The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) requires a court order
> for such taps.
I seem to remember something about this from The Puzzle Palace. Am I
mistaken, or are such orders not made by a special court, which holds
secret proceedings and which, so far as is known, has never denied a
request?
Perry
NODE e501e4a4Re: your mail
Mike Godwin <mnemonic@eff.org>Mon, 7 Feb 94 08:10:37 PST
Perry writes:
> Mike Godwin says:
> >
> > David Koontz writes:
> >
> > > All this bullshit doesnot state that a court order is required, rather
> > > 'legal authorization', which means the NSA for foreign intellingence
> > > purposes without a court order.
> >
> > The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) requires a court order
> > for such taps.
>
> I seem to remember something about this from The Puzzle Palace. Am I
> mistaken, or are such orders not made by a special court, which holds
> secret proceedings and which, so far as is known, has never denied a
> request?
You remember it correctly.
--Mike