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NODE 6c17a702Parker on Clipper
In the 21-Mar-94 issue of Computerworld p.4 the following statment is
attributed to Donn Parker of SRI, "We have to make strong, nonescrow
encryption a crime".  I do not remember Parker making a statement like
this previously, is this a new position for Parker or is my memory 
going bad?

Fred
NODE 363c5ea8Parker on Clipper
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> In the 21-Mar-94 issue of Computerworld p.4 the following statment is
> attributed to Donn Parker of SRI, "We have to make strong, nonescrow
> encryption a crime".  I do not remember Parker making a statement like
> this previously, is this a new position for Parker or is my memory 
> going bad?

He is quoted in the March issue of Scientific American as saying ``You
can't have absolute privacy.  A democracy just can't operate that way.''
(page 101)  The article goes on to say

	The question is not whether cyberspace will be subjected to
	legislation but rather ``how and when law and order will be
	imposed,'' Parker says.  He predicts that the current state of
	affairs will get much worse before the government steps in ``to
	assure privacy and to protect the rights people do have.''

I was so incensed that I began writing him a letter questioning this.  I
might have carried through, but I couldn't find an email address for him
right away.  (Anyone have it handy?)  His attitude reminds me of claims
by DERD & Co. (love that new designator! what does the R stand for?)
that ``if you knew what I know, you too would favor government
surveillance''.

You write almost as if you are surprised that he in particular would
express these positions.  I was unaware of his existence before reading
this Scientific American piece, so I had no preconceived notions.  Why
were you surprised?

	John E. Kreznar		| Relations among people to be by
	jkreznar@ininx.com	| mutual consent, or not at all.

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NODE 73049f30Re: Parker on Clipper
You could try dparker@sri.com.  I don't know if thats the right
dparker or not, but its worth a try.

250 CRVAX.SRI.COM I knew you could! Hello SPL.BWH.HARVARD.EDU
expn dparker
250-   <10966@CRVAX.SRI.COM>
250 CRVAX.SRI.COM OK.
vrfy fake-user
551-Error=0400801A
551-Unable to find user fake-user
551-Unable to find user FAKE-USER

| > In the 21-Mar-94 issue of Computerworld p.4 the following statment is
| > attributed to Donn Parker of SRI, "We have to make strong, nonescrow

| I was so incensed that I began writing him a letter questioning this.  I
| might have carried through, but I couldn't find an email address for him
| right away.  (Anyone have it handy?)  His attitude reminds me of claims

Adam


-- 
Adam Shostack 				       adam@bwh.harvard.edu

Politics.  From the greek "poly," meaning many, and ticks, a small,
annoying bloodsucker.

Have you signed the anti-Clipper petition?
NODE 563a6e80Re: Parker on Clipper
>You write almost as if you are surprised that he in particular would
>express these positions.  I was unaware of his existence before reading
>this Scientific American piece, so I had no preconceived notions.  Why
>were you surprised?

Exactly. Parker has been in the computer security field for a long
time, and he is well known for expressing views that can be best
described as ultra-conservative and extremely authoritarian. These
comments of his are about as surprising as those of George Bush
calling for the reversal of Roe v Wade.

But so what? The man is entitled to his opinions. Rather than jump on
him for expressing them, perhaps you should disseminate them as widely
as possible. I can't think of a much better way to rally the
opposition to Clipper.

Remember that the power to counter things like Clipper is already in
your hands. Don't let people like Parker just get you mad. Get even -
write code!

Phil
NODE 6be3f513Parker on Clipper
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> But so what? The man is entitled to his opinions. Rather than jump on
> him for expressing them, perhaps you should disseminate them as widely
> as possible. I can't think of a much better way to rally the
> opposition to Clipper.

I agree.  When I wrote that I was ``incensed'', I meant in the sense of
``excited'', not ``angry''.  I genuinely want to question him (not
``jump on him'') in an effort to better understand how he justifies to
himself opinions that you and I find so offensive.  This may provide
even more incriminating revelations for dissemination.

> Remember that the power to counter things like Clipper is already in
> your hands. Don't let people like Parker just get you mad. Get even -
> write code!

Yep!

	John E. Kreznar		| Relations among people to be by
	jkreznar@ininx.com	| mutual consent, or not at all.

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