Surveillance cameras

"T.A.Z." <an57322@anon.penet.fi> wrote:

:Routine implants of transponder devices into humans are not a question of
:if, but only of when. I predict that they will become routine before the

and wrote, and wrote, and wrote...

Marc, when I said "And when you get a new account, remember to post to
penet.fi instead of the list directly." I didn't mean for you to take
it to heart quite so strongly and post the same thing four times!

G
PS London has the same degree of camera surveillance as you said
Germany has.  There's a big centre at Kings Cross Station where
all the Railway Police have their monitors (of all the Underground
entrances) and another one at New Scotland Yard where all the 
transport police have theirs.  The ones in the underground - which
are ostensibly just for mass crowd volume monitoring - have an
absolutely deadly killer zoom lens that's centrally steerable.

It's *way* overkill for the use it's supposed to be for...

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> G
> PS London has the same degree of camera surveillance as you said
> Germany has.  There's a big centre at Kings Cross Station where
> all the Railway Police have their monitors (of all the Underground
> entrances) and another one at New Scotland Yard where all the 
> transport police have theirs.  The ones in the underground - which
> are ostensibly just for mass crowd volume monitoring - have an
> absolutely deadly killer zoom lens that's centrally steerable.
> 
> It's *way* overkill for the use it's supposed to be for...

Do the station staff ever use them ?

Here in Melbourne, all the underground railway stations have cameras
pointing at escalators, up and down the platforms, etc, but if you're
doing something silly like riding around on a chair that the ticket
guys usually sit upon, you can expect an announcement :)  There is also
a window that looks into a `monitor' room from a public walkway at one.

Oh, and one of the cameras looking up a platform has gum fixed to part
of the cover in front of the lens :)

Darren Reed writes:


> > entrances) and another one at New Scotland Yard where all the 
> > transport police have theirs.  The ones in the underground - which
> > are ostensibly just for mass crowd volume monitoring - have an
> > absolutely deadly killer zoom lens that's centrally steerable.
> > 
> > It's *way* overkill for the use it's supposed to be for...
> 
> Do the station staff ever use them ?
> 
> Here in Melbourne, all the underground railway stations have cameras
> pointing at escalators, up and down the platforms, etc, but if you're
> doing something silly like riding around on a chair that the ticket
> guys usually sit upon, you can expect an announcement :)  There is also
> a window that looks into a `monitor' room from a public walkway at one.

Most American airports, especially those with international
connections, routinely videotape all passengers. I can't cite a source
for this, but I think it's common knowledge (not that this means its
true).

The recent film "The Pelican Brief" has this as a plot device, with a
terrorist captured on tape on his departure to Paris.

Paranoid note: Ear shapes are said to be a fairly unique
characteristic, hard to disguise, and easy for computers to process (
a line scan). This may mean the return of long hair. (No wonder
Singapore bans long hair on men.)

"Oh, I'm going to a "Star Trek" convention in London. I'm playing Spock."

> Oh, and one of the cameras looking up a platform has gum fixed to part
> of the cover in front of the lens :)

Wouldn't one of our "Big Brother Inside" stickers work pretty well
here?

--Tim May


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