NODE 8432e2d9No Subject
NetSurfer <jdwilson@gold.chem.hawaii.edu>Thu, 28 Apr 94 22:51:08 PDT
The following anon msg sent to the cpunks list contained your account
(ebrandt@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu) as the reply to:
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Date: Thu Apr 28 00:36:57 PDT 1994
From: nobody@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu
Reply to: ebrandt@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: spooks on cypherpunks
NetSurfer <jdwilson@gold.chem.hawaii.edu>
Robert Mathews <mathews@gold.chem.hawaii.edu> be aware
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Are you the sender? Do you know who the sender is? Why exactly is this
person defaming my name with this outrageous accusation?
The only recent contact I know of was that Robert Mathews sent a message
to soda.berkeley.edu where (for whatever his reason was) he was warning
against Sameer's 14.4 link. I personally do NOT know why he (Mathews)
felt it necessary to send that message on like he did. The only reason I
sent it to him was as part of a discussion of bandwidth/services for a
network we are working on which will support multiple users and multiple
connect types. But in either case, if this was the source of the msg from
nobody@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu, it was way off base.
-Jim
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NODE a6c69c01Anonymous accusations not worth much
tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)Thu, 28 Apr 94 23:21:41 PDT
> The following anon msg sent to the cpunks list contained your account
> (ebrandt@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu) as the reply to:
> Date: Thu Apr 28 00:36:57 PDT 1994
> From: nobody@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu
> Reply to: ebrandt@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: spooks on cypherpunks
>
> NetSurfer <jdwilson@gold.chem.hawaii.edu>
> Robert Mathews <mathews@gold.chem.hawaii.edu> be aware
>
...
>
> Are you the sender? Do you know who the sender is? Why exactly is this
> person defaming my name with this outrageous accusation?
Cheer up, NetSurfer, as nobody takes anonymous accusations too
seriously...at least not anyboy with any common sense.
Reputations matter, and anonymous entities who provide no verifiable
info (not that many of us want to see such info, or would bother to
investigate it) have almost zero reputation. The calculus of
reputations thus means that anonymous accusations carry little weight.
There's a lot more to be said here. This issue lies close to the heart
of how crypto anarchy works.
--Tim May
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NODE a3cba8caRe: your mail
Eli Brandt <ebrandt@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu>Thu, 28 Apr 94 23:29:55 PDT
> Are you the sender? Do you know who the sender is? Why exactly is this
> person defaming my name with this outrageous accusation?
Like it says in the header, "Remailed-By: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu".
I remailed it; I did not originate it. No, I do not know who the sender
is, and cannot find out.
Without belittling your dismay at being called a "spook", I think
it's worth noting that nobody has posted to say "Thanks for the hot
tip!", while several have said "Yeah, right." This is as it should be
in reponse to an unsigned message making unsupported claims.
Eli ebrandt@hmc.edu