NODE d0089ef4Banyan Vines / USMC
SGT=DARREN=S.=HARLOW%ISB%MCTSSA@nwsfallbrook3.nwac.sea06.navy.milTue, 19 Apr 94 15:05:24 PDT
The Banyan Vines network was used extensively in Desert
Storm/Shield/Sweep. Before the network was in place, people were using a
single channel radio relay box called the Hadron. It was capable of being
used with the KY-57 (crypto) on the PRC-77 (single channel radio), as well as
satcom (PSC-3).
Once the network was up and in place. Internet shots were
coordinated with Quantico, VA, so that the supply cycles, and requests could
be sent in real time. Not every Marine tank was a Banyan server, networks
were installed down to the regiment HQ level. Remote shots were done over
MUX lines with KG-84 as the crypto, on a four wire leased circuits. This
allowed for secure communications within the theater of operations, as well
as unclassified communications with the rear (stateside). A number of
different ways are available to the Marine Corps to talk to remote spots, and
new ways are being found all of the time. If there is further interest, I
would be more than happy to post further to the list.
Sgt Darren Harlow - Computer Security
MCTSSA, Camp Pendleton, USMC
Internet: harlowd@nwsfallbrook3.nwac.sea06.navy.mil
or another less reliable & slower: harlow@mqg1.usmc.mil
Voice: Comm: (619) 725-2970 DSN (Autovon): 365-2970
Fax: Comm: (619) 725-9512 DSN (Autovon): 365-9512
PGP Public key available upon request
"The views expressed are my own, and always will be..."
NODE f1832506Re: Banyan Vines / USMC
Phil Karn <karn@qualcomm.com>Thu, 21 Apr 94 15:03:28 PDT
> The Banyan Vines network was used extensively in Desert
>Storm/Shield/Sweep. Before the network was in place, people were using a
>single channel radio relay box called the Hadron. It was capable of being
>used with the KY-57 (crypto) on the PRC-77 (single channel radio), as well as
>satcom (PSC-3).
I've seen the Hadron. It's an impressive, fancy, TEMPESTed, MIL-SPEC
box. When I opened it up, I found an ordinary, production, amateur
packet radio TNC (terminal node controller) speaking AX.25.
Kind of scary when you think about it. :-)
What would normally cost a ham about $150-$200 probably cost the
government about $5K each.
Phil
NODE 31d3a173Re: Banyan Vines / USMC
Ed Carp <ecarp@netcom.com>Thu, 21 Apr 94 15:28:02 PDT
On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Phil Karn wrote:
> > The Banyan Vines network was used extensively in Desert
> >Storm/Shield/Sweep. Before the network was in place, people were using a
> >single channel radio relay box called the Hadron. It was capable of being
> >used with the KY-57 (crypto) on the PRC-77 (single channel radio), as well as
> >satcom (PSC-3).
>
> I've seen the Hadron. It's an impressive, fancy, TEMPESTed, MIL-SPEC
> box. When I opened it up, I found an ordinary, production, amateur
> packet radio TNC (terminal node controller) speaking AX.25.
>
> Kind of scary when you think about it. :-)
>
> What would normally cost a ham about $150-$200 probably cost the
> government about $5K each.
Probably a KPC-3 :)