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Re: MacPGP and AOL

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NODE 927abb25Re: MacPGP and AOL
>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 20:33:48 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
>There is no "court case pending against Phil Zimmerman."  Neither he nor
>his legal counsel have been notified of any action against him.  He has
>not been named publically in any official papers.  He has not been
>subpoenaed.  There *is* an insvestigation of how PGP was exported (nothing
>about its *creation*).  Two firms have testified before a Grand Jury.

Late last year, in response to a "bulletin" from eff, I sent money to some
lawyer (in Colorado, I think) for the Phil Zimmerman defense fund.  Was
I defrauded?  How embarrassing.

If I dig out the cancelled check, perhaps someone on the list can tell me
more?

tw
NODE 0ceca090Re: MacPGP and AOL
On Mon, 11 Apr 1994, tim werner wrote:

> Late last year, in response to a "bulletin" from eff, I sent money to some
> lawyer (in Colorado, I think) for the Phil Zimmerman defense fund.  Was
> I defrauded?  How embarrassing.
> 
> If I dig out the cancelled check, perhaps someone on the list can tell me
> more?
> 
> tw

Don't do that!

Even though Phil has not been officially proceeded against in any way has
has hired a lawyer and spent lots of money.  I was just trying to make it
clear that nothing has actually happened yet.  If one may have to mount a
major defense against a federal criminal prosecution, one has to prepare
in advance.

DCF

"It's easy to see the evils of our parents, it is hard to see the evils of
ourselves."
NODE f94c0f7bRe: MacPGP and AOL
> On Mon, 11 Apr 1994, tim werner wrote:
> > Late last year, in response to a "bulletin" from eff, I sent money to some
> > lawyer (in Colorado, I think) for the Phil Zimmerman defense fund.  Was
> > I defrauded?  How embarrassing.

Not to worry, if the check was made to Philip Dubois and marked as going 
to Philip Zimmermann's legal defense fund, it will be used as 
advertised.  I have personally met both of these people, and trust them 
to do what they promised.  Phil Zimmermann is still a free man (last I 
checked), but being the target of a grand jury investigation has already 
cost Phil more than sleep and peace of mind.  He has had his lawyer 
interceding on his behalf as much as possible to prevent an actual 
indictment, and this does cost money.

Peace to you.

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