NODE 454559deChimerically Misquoted
Jeff Davis <eagle@deeptht.armory.com>Mon, 2 May 94 20:51:55 PDT
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The term Cypherpunks is amorphous, thus subject to use and abuse
by the masses. When people like Jeff Davis and Phill Zimmermann
say "The cypherpunks are generally opposed to Clipper" it makes us
an "organization" which, like it or not, does have representatives
and agendas. Unfortunately, perception defines reality. If we
I've never said this in any forum, public or private. The only Zimmerman
quote on cypherpunks I've ever seen was in the WSJ. He stated he was not
a cypherpunk, he wore a suit when he contacted clients. In responding to
this, I've opened myself to another spew by Perry, but what the fuck. If
one has to take a cheap shot, one is already whipped. And I'm not here
to win a popularity contest either.
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NODE d83ccacfRe: Chimerically Misquoted
"Jim Sewell" <jims@Central.KeyWest.MPGN.COM>Tue, 3 May 94 07:00:04 PDT
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> From: "Jim Sewell" <jims@Central.KeyWest.MPGN.COM>
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> The term Cypherpunks is amorphous, thus subject to use and abuse
> by the masses. When people like Jeff Davis and Phill Zimmermann
^^^^^^^^^^^
People like was meant to be taken as "High visibility". Saying
that people like Joe say "Coke is it" is not a misquote, even if
Joe never said the word 'Coke'.
No disrespect was meant... I admire your willingness to get
involved. (Even if some people think otherwise).
Jim
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NODE 762dddeaRe: Chimerically Misquoted
Jeff Davis <eagle@deeptht.armory.com>Tue, 3 May 94 10:49:30 PDT
> People like was meant to be taken as "High visibility". Saying
> that people like Joe say "Coke is it" is not a misquote, even if
> Joe never said the word 'Coke'.
I stand corrected. BTW- "Cypherpunks" has a ring to it the media loves
to exploit. Maybe we should consider changing the name of the group to
bit.nerd.weenies and avoid public scrutiny ;) Or maybe this really is
about crypto-anarchy.
The US gov't position on anarchy is someone must speak for the anarchists.
That's how they made Red Cloud the spokesperson for the Lakota tribes. The
only person Red Cloud had the authority to speak for when he signed the
Ft. Laramie treaty of 1868 was Red Cloud, as far as the Lakota Nations were
concerned.
Just a piece of history. The US gov't insists an anarchy conform to its
paradigm of centralized leadership and singular spokesperson. I prefer to
think and speak for myself, thank you.
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