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one time pad plus

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 While I'm waiting for IP (internet politics) to re-establish the
link between the WELL and toad.com, I thought I'd pass along an
idea for a product I call "One Time Pad Plus."

 Basically it would work like this; Thelma is looking to pass a
message to Louise, so she XOR's plaintext file A against random
byte file B producing ciphertext file C. Now since Thelma works for
an unethical company that like to read it's employee's E-mail,
she's in need of some "plausible deniability."

 Enter "One Time Pad Plus." Thelma now XOR's ciphertext file C with
"Safetext" file D (any typically company approved useless memo)
producing "pseudorandom" file E. She now copies random file B to
disc and sends it to Louise via secure sneakernet. Then she
performs a military grade wipe on A and B. Now she can send
ciphertext file C via company E-mail.

 If her message is intercepted, she has deniability, she can claim
she has read of hackers, cypherpunks, and other evils equipped with
packet sniffers, and being concerned about security is using
encryption. She can then produce "random" file E  and decrypt
ciphertext file C which will yield not A but D the company approved
useless memo.

 She is commended for her forsight and gets a handsome bonus (yeah
right!)


 Questions? Comments? Criticism?

 Replies to private E-mail till I'm back Online.


Brian Williams
Extropian
Cypherpatriot

"Cryptocosmology: Sufficently advanced comunication is
                  indistinguishable from noise." --Steve Witham

 "Have you ever had your phones tapped by the government? YOU WILL
  and the company that'll bring it to you....  AT&T" --James Speth
 
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NODE 590b2bf8Re: one time pad plus
>  Basically it would work like this; Thelma is looking to pass a
> message to Louise, so she XOR's plaintext file A against random
> byte file B producing ciphertext file C. Now since Thelma works for
> an unethical company that like to read it's employee's E-mail,
> she's in need of some "plausible deniability."
> 
>  Enter "One Time Pad Plus." Thelma now XOR's ciphertext file C with
> "Safetext" file D (any typically company approved useless memo)
> producing "pseudorandom" file E. She now copies random file B to
> disc and sends it to Louise via secure sneakernet. Then she
> performs a military grade wipe on A and B. Now she can send
> ciphertext file C via company E-mail.
> 
>  If her message is intercepted, she has deniability, she can claim
> she has read of hackers, cypherpunks, and other evils equipped with
> packet sniffers, and being concerned about security is using
> encryption. She can then produce "random" file E  and decrypt
> ciphertext file C which will yield not A but D the company approved
> useless memo.

Ok, I'm new to this crypto bit so I probably will have more mistakes here than
correct answers.  Anyways I'm going to give a shot.

1)If you have the secure channel(sneakernet) that you have to re-init each time
you use th eone time pad, then this will be most likely a novelty, since Lousie
could have slipped Thelma the plaintext when she slipped her the pad.

2)If you're using a pad like this, if I'm not mistaken isn't this what Kahn
calls a 'book cipher' where it would be simpler to crack than a true one time
pad that is truly random.

3)Thelma could have used stenographic technology to send the same information,
she could have used faxes that when decoded could yield a message(kinda like
the old punch cards)

Anyways, this is just the view of a complete rank amateur.  Give me feedback
y'all.

Ben.
____
Renegade academician. They're a dangerous breed when they go feral.
 		-James P. Blaylock in "Lord Kelvin's Machine"