NODE cf8f6fddSecurity Consult. Needed
Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>Mon, 2 May 94 06:56:36 PDT
Two recent incidents in NYC show massive market failure in the
information security industry.
One of the city's largest bookies was busted when the Feds intercepted the
daily fax transmissions summarizing business results sent from his NY
office to his Florida home.
A major cocaine dealer is facing prosecution based on written transaction
records seized at his office. His simple code was broken by a "known
plaintext attack" when investigators were able to match his written
notations with transaction information derived from wiretaps.
Can't anyone help these people? Maybe 178th Street needs PGP and Secure
Drive more than the PC Expo.
DCF
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NODE fbd9031eRe: Security Consult. Needed
Ed Carp <ecarp@netcom.com>Mon, 2 May 94 09:05:22 PDT
On Mon, 2 May 1994, Duncan Frissell wrote:
> Two recent incidents in NYC show massive market failure in the
> information security industry.
You mean, marketing PGP to criminals?
> One of the city's largest bookies was busted when the Feds intercepted the
> daily fax transmissions summarizing business results sent from his NY
> office to his Florida home.
>
> A major cocaine dealer is facing prosecution based on written transaction
> records seized at his office. His simple code was broken by a "known
> plaintext attack" when investigators were able to match his written
> notations with transaction information derived from wiretaps.
>
> Can't anyone help these people? Maybe 178th Street needs PGP and Secure
> Drive more than the PC Expo.
Be careful with this line of reasoning. If you market PGP to a crook for
the explicit purpose of keeping his illegal activities hidden from the
cops, you violate at least two different laws. It's like selling lock
picks to a known burglar. You could be prosecuted for conspiracy, aiding
and abetting, and whatever they call interference with a police
investigation nowadays.
NODE 81754f94Re: Security Consult. Needed
Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com>Mon, 2 May 94 10:59:59 PDT
C'punks,
On Mon, 2 May 1994, Ed Carp wrote:
> . . .
> You mean, marketing PGP to criminals?
> . . .
> Be careful with this line of reasoning. If you market PGP to a crook for
> the explicit purpose of keeping his illegal activities hidden from the
> cops, you violate at least two different laws. It's like selling lock
> picks to a known burglar. You could be prosecuted for conspiracy, aiding
> and abetting, and whatever they call interference with a police
> investigation nowadays.
Those of you who do not know Duncan Frissell personally, cannot imagine
the elfin smile he surely displayed as he penned his original post.
Humor, too, has its place in our struggle. Try to keep up, Ed.
S a n d y
NODE ece42fcdRe: Security Consult. Needed
Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>Mon, 2 May 94 18:51:18 PDT
On Mon, 2 May 1994, Ed Carp wrote:
> You mean, marketing PGP to criminals?
Criminals are people too.
> Be careful with this line of reasoning. If you market PGP to a crook for
> the explicit purpose of keeping his illegal activities hidden from the
> cops, you violate at least two different laws. It's like selling lock
> picks to a known burglar. You could be prosecuted for conspiracy, aiding
> and abetting, and whatever they call interference with a police
> investigation nowadays.
I know. That is why it should be done using a secure marketing channel.
One could probably get away with handing copies out on the street as well.
Probably protected activity. You wouldn't get many hits that way,
however. ("Hits" defined as crypto in the hands of people who can figure
out how to use it.
Generally, neither unlicensed gambling nor the unlicensed retail
pharmacutical trade are activities disapproved of by the readers of this
list. On the other hand, government enforcement actions directed at
individuals practicing those trades *are* disapproved of.
In any case, I have developed a protocol that would allow the sale of
contraband with almost no risk to the seller and reduced risk to the
buyer. It's based on modern drop shipping techniques. I intend to
publish same when/if tobacco is criminalized.
DCF
"The culture of the nets is unavoidably libertarian because all other
political relationships involve the threat of deadly force and deadly
force is hard to transmit via fiberoptic cables." -- (Me)
"Do as I say or I'll shoot you right through this telephone." -- (Not me)
"The libertarian culture of the nets will transfer to the physical world
since people will be spending more and more time in the (functional) free
society of the nets and will not enjoy the restrictions they have to
suffer in the physical parts of their lives. This will irritate them and
the nets will provide them with the tools to relieve the irritation..."
-- (Me)