Re: MIT has released PGP

R.>the following questions:

R.>Are you a citizen or  national of the United States  or a person who
R.>has  been lawfully admitted   for permanent residence  in the United
R.>States under the Immigration and Naturalization Act?

Wait a goddamned minute.  Since when does the ITAR prevent illegal aliens 
(who are resident in the US) from obtaining munitions?  And what about our 
Canadian bretheran?  I guess they didn't want to register as a munitions 
seller which I gather you have to do if you export to Canada.


DCF



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Duncan Frissell says:
> R.>the following questions:
> 
> R.>Are you a citizen or  national of the United States  or a person who
> R.>has  been lawfully admitted   for permanent residence  in the United
> R.>States under the Immigration and Naturalization Act?
> 
> Wait a goddamned minute.  Since when does the ITAR prevent illegal aliens 
> (who are resident in the US) from obtaining munitions?

It does. It appears that under the ITAR, giving technical information
on munitions to an alien in the U.S. is equivalent to export. I know
its insane. Its an obvious violation of the first amendment. It is
none the less in the regulations.

Perry

On Wed, 25 May 1994, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

> 
> It does. It appears that under the ITAR, giving technical information
> on munitions to an alien in the U.S. is equivalent to export. I know
> its insane. Its an obvious violation of the first amendment. It is
> none the less in the regulations.
> 
> Perry
> 

So all those aliens who want to legally receive "munitions" within the US 
can form a US "corporation, business association, partnership, society, 
trust, or any other entity organization or group including governmental 
entities" and have that institution which would legally be a "US person" 
receive the "munitions."

In fact, I think that the multiplication of entities can be a useful 
tool.  Transfering your car or your assault rifles to corporations formed 
in convenient jurisdictions can be a good way to dodge regulations that 
apply to "persons" within a particular jurisdiction.  Note that under the 
current assault weapons control legislation you are supposed to record 
the sale of your weapons over time.  If they are owned by a corporation, 
they need never be transfered.  The corporation can be transferred instead.

DCF

"If I join the Haitian Legion will they let me keep my assault rifles."