NODE b5e49dfePGP outside the US
SINCLAIR DOUGLAS N <sinclai@ecf.toronto.edu>Mon, 16 May 94 12:38:37 PDT
A repeated comment that I see in cypherpunks is that
"PGP 2.5 is illegal for use outside the US" and thus
communications cannot take place between those in
the US and outside using PGP 2.5.
However, as I see it PGP 2.5 (or 2.6) is only illegal
for use outside the US by US law. Most of us ouside
the US really don't care about US law. The only
problem is the export of PGP 2.5 from the US, which
need only occur once. I can't believe that this hasn't
already happened.
So: US users can legally use PGP 2.5. Foreign users
can also use PGP 2.5 until the US decides to kidnap them.
As far as I know there are no laws against sending
encrypted traffic across the border. Where lies the
problem?
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Version: 2.5
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pRspTpUraoNR
=JT40
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
NODE fc9ed5b9Re: PGP outside the US
"Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu>Mon, 16 May 94 12:44:56 PDT
On Mon, 16 May 1994, SINCLAIR DOUGLAS N wrote:
> As far as I know there are no laws against sending
> encrypted traffic across the border. Where lies the
> problem?
Just wait.....
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NODE 49d7adccRe: PGP outside the US
Alan Barrett <barrett@daisy.ee.und.ac.za>Mon, 16 May 94 13:51:23 PDT
> Foreign users can also use PGP 2.5 until the US decides to kidnap
> them.
Yes, but why would we want to?
I am reasonably satisfied with my legal copy of PGP 2.3a. I would be
happy to upgrade if there were technical reasons for doing so, but I am
not happy to downgrade to RSAREF's reportedly inferior implementation
of certain important operations. I understand that USA folk are in a
different legal position from mine, and may wish to legitimise their
PGP use by downgrading. But I am most displeased with what I see as
attempts to force me to either downgrade (for no good legal or technical
reason) or face an inability to communicate with USA folk who have
chosen (for valid legal reasons) to downgrade.
--apb (Alan Barrett)