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PGP in Australia

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NODE 410a7599PGP in Australia
dichro@tartarus.uwa.edu.au:
> If anyone wants to give me a copy, drop it off at 
> tartarus.uwa.edu.au:/pub/dichro/incoming
> - provided, of course, that it is legal for you to do so ...:)

Pick up PGP versions 2.2 - 6, and the non-RSAREF 6ui, from ftp.dsi.unimi.it
/pub/security/crypt/PGP

Unless Australia forbids _importing_ crypto, not a crime. PGP 6 is the MIT 
RSAREF version, so someone violated ITAR to get it to Italy. Using it outside
the US and Canada also violates RSADSI's _copyrights_. PGP 6ui was released 
from the UK, and therefore does not violate ITAR. It doesn't use RSAREF, so it
doesn't violate RSADSI copyrights. If used in the US, it does violate RSADSI
_patents_.


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NODE 179d7be0Re: PGP in Australia
From the keyboard of:  rishab@dxm.ernet.in

> Using it [MIT PGP 2.6] outside the US and Canada also violates
> RSADSI's _copyrights_.

Not so.  The RSAREF license is valid in countries outside the USA/Canada
crypto ghetto.


Richard
NODE 1a19208dRe: PGP in Australia
rishab@dxm.ernet.in writes
> Using [PGP 2.6] outside
> the US and Canada also violates RSADSI's _copyrights_.

False:  The RSADSI license does not prohibit copyright.

The one of the notes distributed with PGP 2.6 comments
that export violates US ITAR laws.


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NODE 6712dc2eRe: PGP in Australia
Oops.  Garbled message.  What I meant to say was of course

rishab@dxm.ernet.in writes
> Using [PGP 2.6] outside
> the US and Canada also violates RSADSI's _copyrights_.

False:  The RSADSI license does not prohibit exportt.

One of the notes distributed with PGP 2.6 comments
that export violates US ITAR laws.


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the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.     |         jamesd@netcom.com
NODE 14106d5aRe: PGP in Australia
"rishab@dxm.ernet.in" wrote:

> Unless Australia forbids _importing_ crypto, not a crime. PGP 6 is the MIT 

There are no restrictions on importing crypto into Australia, there are
some on export (hardware only) due to COCOM. 

ObBtw, I recently queried our Attorney-General's department on this
topic, along with, inter alia, questions relating to whether Clipper
like systems are of interest to authorities in Australia. The reply,
the AG's Security Division, was that `I understand that encryption is
not an issue' -- but he acknowledged they'd been following the US
controversy.

I'm still waiting for some replies back from another Government Dept
and have a few other avenues to chase up, when I do I'll make available
the information (if this particular geographic oddity is of interest
to anyone ?).

Matthew.

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Matthew Gream
Consent Technologies
Sydney, (02) 821-2043
M.Gream@uts.edu.au
NODE 0a73f4aaRe: PGP in Australia
On Thu, 9 Jun 1994, Matthew Gream wrote:

> "rishab@dxm.ernet.in" wrote:
> 
> > Unless Australia forbids _importing_ crypto, not a crime. PGP 6 is the MIT 
> 
> There are no restrictions on importing crypto into Australia, there are
> some on export (hardware only) due to COCOM. 

I thought COCOM was dead as of last March or thereabouts.  Did a replacement 
committee ever get formed?

Joe