Cypherpunks' mail database does exist

Vincent, you  state that a fully archived, indexed cypherpunks
mailing list exists as:
http://pmip.maricopa.edu/crypt/cypherpunks/cypherpunks.src
Ok, so I ftp'ed to pmip.maricopa.edu & tried to get to cypherpunks.src,
but even the subdirectories weren't there. I suspect that http does
not imply that we ftp. What communication method is this called & how
do we use it? I send this public instead of private as I suspect that
a lot of lurkers don't know what is going on either.
                                                       Yours Truly,
                                                       Gary Jeffers

On Jun 15,  2:51pm, Gary Jeffers wrote:
> Subject: Cypherpunks' mail database does exist
>    Vincent, you  state that a fully archived, indexed cypherpunks
> mailing list exists as:
> http://pmip.maricopa.edu/crypt/cypherpunks/cypherpunks.src
> Ok, so I ftp'ed to pmip.maricopa.edu & tried to get to cypherpunks.src,
> but even the subdirectories weren't there. I suspect that http does
> not imply that we ftp. What communication method is this called & how
> do we use it? I send this public instead of private as I suspect that
> a lot of lurkers don't know what is going on either.

This access method uses httpd, which listens at a different port (tcp 80) on
the server than ftpd.  What this *means* is that ftp is not likely to work with
this address.  Depending upon the local setup, you may/may not be able to ftp
into this site, by way of a different site mapping, and be able to root around
for the file.

However, bear in mind (you need to hack html to grok this issue) that the above
pathname is often relative, rather than absolute.  That is, the httpd daemon
knows where to look to serve you, but may hide the absolute pathname from you,
which may really be something like:
		/var/httpd/foo/foo_files
... which may itself be symlinked elsewhere.

The upshot of this is that you need to get a web browser, like Lynx (sp? I
don't use it; line mode) or xmosaic (which I use and get along with).

Hope this starts to help.

Russell


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> 
> However, bear in mind (you need to hack html to grok this issue) that the 
> above pathname is often relative, rather than absolute.  That is, the 
> httpd daemon knows where to look to serve you, but may hide the absolute 
> pathname from you, which may really be something like:
> 		/var/httpd/foo/foo_files
> ... which may itself be symlinked elsewhere.
>


It does my heart good to hear someone use the term 'grok' -- I don't
hear many folks use that term very much anymore.   ,-)

- paul

On Wed, 15 Jun 1994, Gary Jeffers wrote:

> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 14:51:46 CDT
> From: Gary Jeffers <CCGARY@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Cypherpunks' mail database does exist
> 
>    Vincent, you  state that a fully archived, indexed cypherpunks
> mailing list exists as:
> http://pmip.maricopa.edu/crypt/cypherpunks/cypherpunks.src
> Ok, so I ftp'ed to pmip.maricopa.edu & tried to get to cypherpunks.src,
> but even the subdirectories weren't there. I suspect that http does
> not imply that we ftp. What communication method is this called & how
> do we use it? I send this public instead of private as I suspect that
> a lot of lurkers don't know what is going on either.
>                                                        Yours Truly,
>                                                        Gary Jeffers


Try using Mosaic or Gopher.


-NetSurfer

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"gj" == "Gary Jeffers" <CCGARY@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu> writes:

gj>   Vincent, you state that a fully archived, indexed cypherpunks
gj> mailing list exists as:
gj>   http://pmip.maricopa.edu/crypt/cypherpunks/cypherpunks.src

  It appears that the correct URL is
      http://pmip.maricopa.edu/crypt/cypherpunks/Cypherpunks.src which
I think is a WAIS document. Since I don't--to jump on the stranger's
bandwagon--grok WAIS, I do not know how one makes effective use of
this.  For those wanting to know more about WAIS, ftp to think.com and
look under wais/.

michael