NODE ea8905d1Re: Leaving the Country
smb@research.att.comFri, 15 Jul 94 13:57:53 PDT
FYI - the states with no (general) tax on wages are:
New Hampshire*
Florida
Texas
Tennesee
South Dakota
Wyoming
Nevada
Washington
Alaska*
*No (general) sales tax either. How do they do it -- Magic.
Magic? TANSTAAFL. Alaska has oil money (or has had it), and New
Hampshire provides (relatively speaking) fewer services to its citizens,
according to folks I know who have lived there. Knowing the politics
of much of this list, that's probably considered a Good Thing by many;
I disagree, but I won't clutter the list with (even more) politics.
But if you're thinking of moving anywhere, find out what you *aren't*
getting for your money, and see if it's worth it.
NODE 145e817eRe: Leaving the Country
Berzerk <berzerk@xmission.xmission.com>Fri, 15 Jul 94 14:38:14 PDT
On Fri, 15 Jul 1994 smb@research.att.com wrote:
> TANSTAAFL.
???????????
What is this, some comglomerate of 3 federal agencies? tan-sta-afl
Berzerk
NODE 00e5ffdaRe: Leaving the Country
tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)Fri, 15 Jul 94 16:52:42 PDT
>
> On Fri, 15 Jul 1994 smb@research.att.com wrote:
> > TANSTAAFL.
> ???????????
>
> What is this, some comglomerate of 3 federal agencies? tan-sta-afl
>
> Berzerk
Roger, you ain't no mad dog libertarian if you haven't read "The Moon
is a Harsh Mistress," by Heinlein of course, and from whence came the
popularizaiton of of TANSTAAFL--There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free
Lunch.
I say "popularization" instead of coinage, because Goldwater use a
variant ("There isn't...") in his 1964 campaign, reportedly written by
one of his speech writers, Karl Hess. (The same Karl Hess who is
involved in libertarian matters.)
--Tim May
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NODE 87821356Re: Leaving the Country
Berzerk <berzerk@xmission.xmission.com>Fri, 15 Jul 94 20:48:47 PDT
On Fri, 15 Jul 1994, Timothy C. May wrote:
> Roger, you ain't no mad dog libertarian if you haven't read "The Moon
> is a Harsh Mistress," by Heinlein of course, and from whence came the
This is way out there, but I no longer read fiction. I stoped at about
40 fiction books, and did most of my reading in the non-fiction section.
Having read the entire encyclopidia of science and technology by the time
I was 8, I established a love of dry technical reading.
Roger, a nerds nerd, and a mans man, Bryner.
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We now return you to on-topic mesages.
NODE 26b68512Re: Leaving the Country
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@imsi.com>Sun, 17 Jul 94 15:31:05 PDT
Timothy C. May says:
> I say "popularization" instead of coinage, because Goldwater use a
> variant ("There isn't...") in his 1964 campaign, reportedly written by
> one of his speech writers, Karl Hess. (The same Karl Hess who is
> involved in libertarian matters.)
The same Karl Hess (sadly departed on the same day as Tricky Dick
Nixon) who wrote for Goldwater: "Extremism in the defense of liberty
is no vice, moderation no virtue" (or something like that; I can't
remember the exact words). Hess was an anarchist, and open about it.
When he died, the New York Times obituary for him refered to him as an
important Republican who had "reversed views" and become an anarchist,
never understanding what his views had been all along.
Goldwater was a friend of his to the end. Recently, some Republicans
have been shocked to discover that Goldwater supports equal treatment
under the law (although not "affirmative action" or other similar
crud) for Homosexuals and other similar unattractive groups, and that
he holds other evil "liberal" views. Some conservatives have gone so
far as to denounce him for "slipping". They never have understood what
his views have been all along, either.
However, might I point out that none of this has anything to do with
cryptography?
Perry