NODE 394cdc97Gore's "new and improved" key escrow proposal
shamrock@netcom.com (Lucky Green)Thu, 21 Jul 94 23:44:07 PDT
Is it just me, or has the administration just delivered the knock-out puch?
It seems that by abandoning the Clipper proposal for a software based
system they managed to convince key industry groups (and soon the public?)
to end their opposition to the fascist key escrow proposal. Cypherpunks, we
are in deep trouble.
-- Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> PGP public key by finger
Clinton is in the process of making internal passports aka "Universal
Health Care Card" mandatory:
"REV 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free
and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
REV 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."
NODE efb3c4aaRe: Gore's "new and improved" key escrow proposal
tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)Fri, 22 Jul 94 00:16:13 PDT
> Is it just me, or has the administration just delivered the knock-out puch?
>
> It seems that by abandoning the Clipper proposal for a software based
> system they managed to convince key industry groups (and soon the public?)
> to end their opposition to the fascist key escrow proposal. Cypherpunks, we
> are in deep trouble.
> -- Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> PGP public key by finger
I don't think so. Like others, I thing a stall is a stall...backing
off from the Capstone/Skipjack/Tessera/etc. Escrowed Encryption
Standard things will delay them while they regroup.
(It may also throw a monkeywrench into plans by Mykotronx, National,
and others to ramp up production....some more "incentivization" may be
needed.)
Others here will have a clearer idea than I have, but I don't think a
"software standard" is what is now being planned. Software-only
solution cannot possibly have the security that's needed (e.g., it's
too easy to go in and rewrite the offending portions, diddle with the
fields, etc.).
And stalling is good. The FBI guy Kallstrom was quoted as saying that
Digital Telephony had better be passed soon, because in a year to two
it would be too expensive to make mandatory!
The longer we monkeywrench these schemes, the more "degrees of
freedom" are out there, the more there is just no way to implement
either key esrow or centralized wiretapping.
--Tim May
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NODE 4fa12f56Re: Gore's "new and improved" key escrow proposal
ebrandt@muddcs.cs.hmc.edu (Eli Brandt)Fri, 22 Jul 94 03:32:45 PDT
Tim May said:
> Others here will have a clearer idea than I have, but I don't think a
> "software standard" is what is now being planned. Software-only
> solution cannot possibly have the security that's needed [...]
My reading of the BSA blurb was that software key escrow really is
being planned: "software implementable [and] based on a non-classified
encryption formula". Yes, this sounds pretty silly. I don't see how
you could possibly prevent a rogue phone from interoperating with a
fascistic one. Guess I need to snarf the original document.
Eli ebrandt@hmc.edu