Re: National ID cards are just the driver's licenses...

: I, and I'm sure Duncan, would be more than happy to discuss the subject 
: with anyone on the list who is interested.  Let's do it offline, though, 
: unless there is a strong crypto tie-in.

Sandy,

I'd love to take part in a list for discussing practical ways of
assuring privacy.  I've been doing it myself for years.  How about
asking Robert Hayden to start up a specific mailing list for it?
(Some name like 'obfusc', for obfuscating database entries etc...?)
- description: 'discussions of practical real-life ways of improving
personal privacy.'

Also, you tend to mention things in dribs and drabs... in fact, didn't
you do a sort of mini privacy-101 some years ago by posting little
snippets of advice in your .sig file every post?  Do you have
any collected files with _lots_ of this stuff in it already that we
could read?

G
PS Robert, did you say you could run anonymous mailing lists or was
that someone else?  This might be a good list to kick off as an
anon list, just on principle...

On Fri, 15 Jul 1994, Graham Toal wrote:
> (Some name like 'obfusc', for obfuscating database entries etc...?)
how about: 
MSOSINYT 
for: 
Minimise Signal Obfuscate Signal Inject Noise(yt:-)

Wow, I wonder if that acronym is clasified somewhere:-)

Roger.

> G
> PS Robert, did you say you could run anonymous mailing lists or was
> that someone else?  This might be a good list to kick off as an
> anon list, just on principle...
> 

	That was me.
	I'd be willing to host a privacy list.
	I'd probably be willing to host a fully-anon privacy list too,
(and offer it for free, instead of charging like I would normally) for
both marketing and ideological reasons.

	I have majordomo running here.

	Keep in mind though.. Tim says this often and I agree with
him. The splinter lists have *not* had much traffic. I created the
remailer-operators list, and there hasn't been much traffic. I wasn't
surprised, but I thought I may as well start it. (Whenever I do any
remailer hacking and/or changes I *will* [I think I have, as well]
post to the remailer-operators list.. I still encourage others to do
the same.)

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