Re: FW: No SKE in Daytona and other goodies

From: Timothy C. May

But what is the reason of the involvement of "law enforcement" and the
"intelligence community" in this matter? I refer you all to the
upcoming conference agenda, the involvement of NIST/NSA, TIS, Denning,
and FBI Director Louis Freeh. Look at the papers being presented at
the conference.

Any questions?
.............................................

If a system contains "protocols especially suited for eventual 
mandatory use", like SKE, does this of necessity mean that the 
developers intended that it should become part of a nationally-mandated 
open avenue to spying on anyone who uses it?

Blanc

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> If a system contains "protocols especially suited for eventual 
> mandatory use", like SKE, does this of necessity mean that the 
> developers intended that it should become part of a nationally-mandated 
> open avenue to spying on anyone who uses it?

No, but (Cliche Alert) the road to key escrow is paved with good
intentions. IMHO the developers who might actually be working on
implementations of this scheme either
	a) don't know that it _could easily_ "become part of
	   a nationally-mandated open avenue to spying,"
	b) know but don't think such developments are likely, or
	c) know and don't care.

Clearly education is a powerful antidote to cases a) and b)

- -Paul

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Paul Robichaux, KD4JZG      | "Information is the currency of democracy."
perobich@ingr.com           |     - some old guy named Thomas Jefferson
	       Of course I don't speak for Intergraph.
	       

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Paul Robichaux writes:

> No, but (Cliche Alert) the road to key escrow is paved with good
> intentions. IMHO the developers who might actually be working on
> implementations of this scheme either
> 	a) don't know that it _could easily_ "become part of
> 	   a nationally-mandated open avenue to spying,"
> 	b) know but don't think such developments are likely, or
> 	c) know and don't care.
> 
> Clearly education is a powerful antidote to cases a) and b)

To this can be added an obvious fourth possibility:

        d) know and care, but have a paycheck to earn and a career
           to think about.

I think many people working for companies developing unsavory products
find reasonse not to quit in rigtheous indignation.

In fact, we could add more possibilities:

         e) know and care, but think it best to "work from within"
 
         f) know and care, but also know that company will just assign
            others to same job

And so forth.

The may also know and care, but think the dangers are being
overstated, or that "that's not my department" ("says Klaus! von
Bomb"?)

--Tim May



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From: Blanc Weber <blancw@microsoft.com>
   Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 12:34:14 PDT

   From: Timothy C. May

   But what is the reason of the involvement of "law enforcement" and the
   "intelligence community" in this matter? I refer you all to the
   upcoming conference agenda, the involvement of NIST/NSA, TIS, Denning,
   and FBI Director Louis Freeh. Look at the papers being presented at
   the conference.

   Any questions?
   .............................................

   If a system contains "protocols especially suited for eventual 
   mandatory use", like SKE, does this of necessity mean that the 
   developers intended that it should become part of a nationally-mandated 
   open avenue to spying on anyone who uses it?

Not of necessity.  (One senses some bottom-covering here...)

It DOES of necessity mean that they are, wittingly or unwittingly,
contributing to opening the avenue.  It is incumbent upon us to make
them aware of that contribution, so that their consciences may be
tortured thereby.

If in fact they have any.