*comeon

Connie Sadler is quite displeased at what Berzerk finds delightful.
I would not call this list a boys' club but the vast majority is male.
People talk to please themselves. This list is statistically unusual.
We have lots of guys, minarchists, anarchists, eccentrics, & tech-
heads. We kinds of people are amused at what berzerk finds amusing. I
doubt that Sadler's principles are offended, but rather her interests.
If fun had been poked at guys then she would have been amused. In the
US women are accorded special rights at being a "victimized group".
There are many places that your interests will be specially catered to.
The Cypherpunks' list is just about as "politically incorrect" as you
can get & we like it this way.
   We are sick of being censored & vilified by society at large. We
also do not like our rights of freedom of association being trampled.
Your demands that your sensibilities be respected is a demand that our
speech be censored.
   We would be quite pleased by any contributions to the Cypherpunks'
cause that you have to offer. But you will not get a good reception
here by demanding rights that you believe are awarded to state
certified "victims" groups.
  Of course, I'm not really familiar with you. Possibly you think of
yourself more as an individual than as a member of a particular group &
possibly you will be an asset to Cypherpunks & your first post was
not representative of yourself. In that case, we would be pleased to
have your company.
                                            Wishing for the best,
                                            Gary Jeffers

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>    We are sick of being censored & vilified by society at large. We
> also do not like our rights of freedom of association being trampled.
> Your demands that your sensibilities be respected is a demand that our
> speech be censored.
>    We would be quite pleased by any contributions to the Cypherpunks'
> cause that you have to offer. But you will not get a good reception
> here by demanding rights that you believe are awarded to state
> certified "victims" groups.

Not bad, Gary - you've managed to manufacture a non-existent consensus
of cypherpunk feeling/opinion from thin air, *and* used it to 
address an argument nobody made in the first place. But what will you do
for an encore?

Seriously, speak for yourself. I'm in no hurry to call the P.C. cops of
either the left or the right wing down on Cypherpunks, but a little bit
of respect isn't so much to ask, either. 


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Connie was being silly and bitchy.

If Bezerk had launched an attack on women she would have
been entitled to be offended, and could have answered him
instead of demanding that he be silent.

He did not attack women.

He said that he enjoyed the films representation of woman
as dumb incompetent sex bimbos.

Connie was offended that he should enjoy such a thing.

Tough shit Connie.  Lots of people enjoy stuff I don't like either.

You could complain that the film is false - but then you would look
like an even bigger idiot because the film makes not the slightest
pretence of being realistic.


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are.  True law derives from this right, not from
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