Expose on North's Arm Smuggling

Some people have kindly sent me email encouraging me to stay. I'm still
vacillating, but thought you might be interested in this. I got this
from the same place that last message came from, a sort of "psychic
exploration" list (also deeply interested in world/government events).
Again, probably from a Fidonet channel originally.


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Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit

From: Paul DeRienzo <pdr@echonyc.com>



                      VIRTUAL RADIO NETWORK

             184 Underhill Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11238
               Tel: 718/622-9660  Fax: 718/622-9781

            Executive Director: Andrew Leslie Phillips


July 14, 1994
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE    

PRESS CONTACTS:  Curtis Ellis   212/580-2156
            or   Andy Wandzilak 718/622-9660


                  THE CLINTON-NORTH CONNECTION: 
                      A live press briefing

                      Wednesday, July 27th
                             7:00 pm


The Virtual Radio Network will host a live press briefing, open to
the public, that will reveal Senate-hopeful Oliver North's million
dollar international arms and drugs smuggling operations out of
Central America into the United States through a covert airstrip
at Mena, Arkansas protected by then Governor Bill Clinton. 

Two high level former government officials have agreed to appear
together in this Virtual Radio Network news making background
briefing to reveal their eyewitness accounts including:

 - Why presidential candidate Clinton would not attack President
Bush's Iran-Contra record.

 - How Bill Clinton protected Oliver North's Iran-Contra weapons
for drugs operation at Mena, Arkansas.

 - Oliver North's direct connections and support of DEA documented
drug smugglers at El Salvador's Illopango airstrip which was used
as a CIA-contra resupply point.

The briefing will be held on Wednesday, July 27th, 7 PM at The
Greenwich Village School, 6th Avenue and 11th Street, Manhattan.
Tickets for the public are $8 to benefit Virtual Radio Network's
Producers Fund. 

For public Information and Reservations: 718/ 857-8902.

                                *

Celerino Castillo was the Drug Enforcement Administrations senior
agent in El Salvador from 1985 to 1991. He reported to top federal
officials in 1986 about cocaine flights used to supply the contras
by the "North Network." He told the U.S. ambassador to El
Salvador, Edwin Corr, now retired and teaching at the University
of Oklahoma, and then Vice-President George Bush about the drug
smuggling operation but could get no federal official to act on
his information.

Celerino Castillo and Dave Harmon's, book "Powder Burns" will be
released this summer, by Mosaic Press 1-800-387-8992

Terry Reed, an eight year veteran in U.S. Air Force intelligence
in Southeast Asia. He was recruited by Colonel Oliver North to
train Contra pilots at Mena, Arkansas in an operation named "Jade
Bridge." In 1985, North chose Reed to set up a CIA proprietary,
Maquinaria International, in Mexico to serve as an arms warehouse
and trans-shipment point for weapons. When Reed learned he was
also transmitting cocaine he tried to resign and return to the
U.S. but his life was threatened and a warrant was issued for his
arrest. An FBI/CIA manhunt ensued.  Employing skills learned as an
intelligence officer, Reed and his family fled over a six- month,
30,000 mile odyssey through 48 states. In November 1990 Reed was
acquitted. He has gone to court to seek redress for violations of
his civil rights. 

Terry Reed and John Cummings book "Compromised" published by S.P.I
Books/Shapolsky Publishers Inc. 212-633-2022

Terry Reed and Celerino Castillo will be available for interviews.

Call Curtis Ellis, 212-580-2156 Virtual Radio Network.
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Consider this to be a request that you leave. I strongly suspect that
any messages requesting that you stay came from your alternate
personalities. Even if you aren't Detweiler (and evidence isn't good
on your side), this is not a place for "psychic exploration" or any
similar stuff. Go away.

Perry


Sue D. Nym says:
> Some people have kindly sent me email encouraging me to stay. I'm still
> vacillating, but thought you might be interested in this. I got this
> from the same place that last message came from, a sort of "psychic
> exploration" list (also deeply interested in world/government events).
> Again, probably from a Fidonet channel originally.
> 
> 
> ****
> 
> 
> (From): NYT@NYXFER.BLYTHE.ORG
> (To)  : ALL
> System: SNET
> Conf. : 0009 - CONSPIRACY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit
> 
> From: Paul DeRienzo <pdr@echonyc.com>
> 
> 
> 
>                       VIRTUAL RADIO NETWORK
> 
>              184 Underhill Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11238
>                Tel: 718/622-9660  Fax: 718/622-9781
> 
>             Executive Director: Andrew Leslie Phillips
> 
> 
> July 14, 1994
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE    
> 
> PRESS CONTACTS:  Curtis Ellis   212/580-2156
>             or   Andy Wandzilak 718/622-9660
> 
> 
>                   THE CLINTON-NORTH CONNECTION: 
>                       A live press briefing
> 
>                       Wednesday, July 27th
>                              7:00 pm
> 
> 
> The Virtual Radio Network will host a live press briefing, open to
> the public, that will reveal Senate-hopeful Oliver North's million
> dollar international arms and drugs smuggling operations out of
> Central America into the United States through a covert airstrip
> at Mena, Arkansas protected by then Governor Bill Clinton. 
> 
> Two high level former government officials have agreed to appear
> together in this Virtual Radio Network news making background
> briefing to reveal their eyewitness accounts including:
> 
>  - Why presidential candidate Clinton would not attack President
> Bush's Iran-Contra record.
> 
>  - How Bill Clinton protected Oliver North's Iran-Contra weapons
> for drugs operation at Mena, Arkansas.
> 
>  - Oliver North's direct connections and support of DEA documented
> drug smugglers at El Salvador's Illopango airstrip which was used
> as a CIA-contra resupply point.
> 
> The briefing will be held on Wednesday, July 27th, 7 PM at The
> Greenwich Village School, 6th Avenue and 11th Street, Manhattan.
> Tickets for the public are $8 to benefit Virtual Radio Network's
> Producers Fund. 
> 
> For public Information and Reservations: 718/ 857-8902.
> 
>                                 *
> 
> Celerino Castillo was the Drug Enforcement Administrations senior
> agent in El Salvador from 1985 to 1991. He reported to top federal
> officials in 1986 about cocaine flights used to supply the contras
> by the "North Network." He told the U.S. ambassador to El
> Salvador, Edwin Corr, now retired and teaching at the University
> of Oklahoma, and then Vice-President George Bush about the drug
> smuggling operation but could get no federal official to act on
> his information.
> 
> Celerino Castillo and Dave Harmon's, book "Powder Burns" will be
> released this summer, by Mosaic Press 1-800-387-8992
> 
> Terry Reed, an eight year veteran in U.S. Air Force intelligence
> in Southeast Asia. He was recruited by Colonel Oliver North to
> train Contra pilots at Mena, Arkansas in an operation named "Jade
> Bridge." In 1985, North chose Reed to set up a CIA proprietary,
> Maquinaria International, in Mexico to serve as an arms warehouse
> and trans-shipment point for weapons. When Reed learned he was
> also transmitting cocaine he tried to resign and return to the
> U.S. but his life was threatened and a warrant was issued for his
> arrest. An FBI/CIA manhunt ensued.  Employing skills learned as an
> intelligence officer, Reed and his family fled over a six- month,
> 30,000 mile odyssey through 48 states. In November 1990 Reed was
> acquitted. He has gone to court to seek redress for violations of
> his civil rights. 
> 
> Terry Reed and John Cummings book "Compromised" published by S.P.I
> Books/Shapolsky Publishers Inc. 212-633-2022
> 
> Terry Reed and Celerino Castillo will be available for interviews.
> 
> Call Curtis Ellis, 212-580-2156 Virtual Radio Network.
> - -- 
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>  * RM 1.3 00257 * when's the last time you called your Higher Self?
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>

"Evidence"? Because I post from the same city as this "Detweiller"
net.kook I am guilty by association?

I did NOT make up people's supportive mail. I'll send you a
copy if you don't believe me, if you promise to keep it private.

I think you must have something against women. In fact, I think
the whole list is pretty unbalanced. I haven't seen any other
women except Sandy post. If you are trying to create an atmostphere
of fear and intimidation, let me say that you have succeeded!

Are you involved with the moderation with the list? What is your
authority to tell me to get lost? I am certainly thinking of giving
up on you guys. I have posted two messages I thought were similar
to everyone's interests here. But all I get is a lot of serious
antagonism.

Look, I'll level with you. The name *is* a pseudonym. But it's to
keep jerks like you from harassing and stalking me in the real world.
It seems that people that are jerks in the real world can be even
more insane in cyberspace. I've had some bad experiences in the
past when I used my real name.

I don't think I will have much to say to you in the future. And I may
stick around just to spite you. It's a free country, last time I
checked (contrary to what all you Orwellian-thought-police-paranoids think) 
and I'm free to choose.

This is a nasty message, but you are being nasty to me for no reason. 
I'm going to use you as a punching bag for everyone that is bashing me
for nothing. When/if you apologize, I will.

Have you ever looked at a newborn child? Do you think, "here is another
perverted arm of humanity waiting to cause untold misery"? Or do you think,
"what a joyous event, a clean slate, an innocent soul come to the world
with undreamed-of possibilities"?

If you believe in reincarnation (as I do) you will understand that the
earthly realm is a place where souls are being recycled. And a baby is
born without a tatoo of all their previous crimes against humanity 
for a *reason*-- so that the Perry Metzgers of the world give them a 
chance anyway. 

So think of my new "appearance" into this forum that like a new baby. A
chance for a new beginning, a clean slate. We are all fellow passengers
on this planet earth. Let us work together in harmony and find our
common goals, and resolve peacefully our differences.

There are a lot of neat parallels between reincarnation and email addresses.
When someone gets a new email address it is like their spirit has found
a new vehicle for expression free of prior "reputation baggage"
(identical to the process it goes through of "wearing" a body). In
weird cases where people seem to be "possessed" by different spirits,
or people are "channeling" them, it is just a case (or "manifestation)
of the lack of an entirely one-to-one correspondence between spirits
and bodies, just as there is not a one-to-one correspondence between
people and email addresses.

I find it a refreshing atmosphere, full of possibilities. I thought
some cypherpunks were interested in this kind of thing. I remember
seeing someone's flashing signature about "digital pseudonyms" or 
something like that. Isn't that the idea? It is all just another
variation of the scenes that play out in this earth drama. Whether
the aspect of this "fluidity of identity" is used for good or evil
is based on the application.

I foresee a new harmony between technology and spirituality in the
near future in which these ideas won't sound so bizarre. But I will not
be depressed by anyone's attacks of my ideas. I have long ago learned
how to "turn the other cheek" over ideas. In fact, it is easy in
cyberspace.

I hope you can get over your obvious intolerance, Perry.

--nym@netcom.com

Sue D. Nym says:
> I think you must have something against women.
> I haven't seen any other women except Sandy post.

You know, L. (if I may call you L.) you are at least getting creative.

> I am certainly thinking of giving up on you guys.

Don't allow me to stand in your way.

.pm

Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:09:01 -0400
   From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@imsi.com>

   Sue D. Nym says:
   > I think you must have something against women.
   > I haven't seen any other women except Sandy post.

   You know, L. (if I may call you L.) you are at least getting creative.

If Sue is indeed a tentacle of Detweiler, don't you think we should
encourage his more sane personalities?  And if not a tentacle, aren't
you getting a little weirded out, Perry?

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Russell Nelson says:
>    Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:09:01 -0400
>    From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@imsi.com>
> 
>    Sue D. Nym says:
>    > I think you must have something against women.
>    > I haven't seen any other women except Sandy post.
> 
>    You know, L. (if I may call you L.) you are at least getting creative.
> 
> If Sue is indeed a tentacle of Detweiler, don't you think we should
> encourage his more sane personalities?  And if not a tentacle, aren't
> you getting a little weirded out, Perry?

As I've said, if Sue isn't a tentacle, s/he is posting rather useless
drivel anyway. Frankly I'd say that the evidence is far from
conclusive as to Sue's identity, but it isn't so difficult to note
that random drivel about Ollie North isn't relevant, and that "newage"
(rhymes with sewage) isn't very relevant either.

Perry

> So think of my new "appearance" into this forum that like a new baby. A
> chance for a new beginning, a clean slate.

*New* appearance?  Do you mean to say you've been here before?
As L. Detweiler, as an12070, as tmp@netcom?

But anyway, you're right.  A new e-mail address is a chance for a
new beginning.  I suggested something like this to you when you
showed up as tmp@netcom.com, in fact.  But you didn't exactly hold
up your end of the game.  This time, I'm not willing to cut you as
much slack.  Your "BIG COLLISION" announcement and the probably-yours
"WE ARE BLAMELESS AT NETCOM" slander don't encourage me, either.
You're piling up some lousy karma for future incarnations...

   Eli   ebrandt@hmc.edu