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Online cash, Internet, Pizza Hut

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NODE 86fe1e25Online cash, Internet, Pizza Hut
Hi all,

Has anyone got any idea how Pizza Hut is handling their new real-time online
pizza ordering service? As I understand it you can now order pizza over the
internet if you are in the right locations.

Any info?

Thanks.
NODE c8c7660fRe: Online cash, Internet, Pizza Hut
> 
> Has anyone got any idea how Pizza Hut is handling their new real-time online
> pizza ordering service? As I understand it you can now order pizza over the
> internet if you are in the right locations.

I heard that they take orders at a central location, then a human phones
the PH closest to the customer and relays the order verbally. From my
experiences with PH, "real-time" to them is sometime that week.

It's just a high-tech way to have some low-paid drone screw up your
pizza order for you. More road kill on the ISH . . . thin crust, please.


=D.C. Williams	<dcwill@ee.unr.edu>
NODE c07c74c4Re: Online cash, Internet, Pizza Hut
Jim Choate writes:

> Has anyone got any idea how Pizza Hut is handling their new real-time online
> pizza ordering service? As I understand it you can now order pizza over the
> internet if you are in the right locations.

I happen to be in exactly the right location, the Santa Cruz area,
from whence this idea originates, but I have no interest in such
gimmickry.

I say gimmickry because it is just using Mosaic ("home pizza pages," I
guess) to place the order, just as with a cellphone, a fax machine,
whatever. Payment is *not* made over the Net.

Ho hum. Sadly, it is already being dubbed "the first case of true
Internet commerce." Yeah, like the Coke machines on the Net so many
years ago were examples of Internet commerce.

Pure hype. Madison Avenue nonsense. Good for our tabloid generation.


--Tim May


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NODE 0cda7228Re: Online cash, Internet, Pizza Hut
> 
> I happen to be in exactly the right location, the Santa Cruz area,
> from whence this idea originates, but I have no interest in such
> gimmickry.
> 
> I say gimmickry because it is just using Mosaic ("home pizza pages," I
> guess) to place the order, just as with a cellphone, a fax machine,
> whatever. Payment is *not* made over the Net.
> 
> Ho hum. Sadly, it is already being dubbed "the first case of true
> Internet commerce." Yeah, like the Coke machines on the Net so many
> years ago were examples of Internet commerce.
> 
> Pure hype. Madison Avenue nonsense. Good for our tabloid generation.
> 
You sound jaded to me Tim.

As I have alluded in another post, seems the perfect oportunity for doing
some building if one considers it a base system. I have worked on some
POS apps for Sears, Pennies, and McDonalds (if you knew how they make the
fries you would never eat there again!). At the present time they use the
systems for record keeping only. But knowing the big boys as I do (take that
one as you want) I suspect they will want to crawl before they walk.

First get folks used to using it for order only, then later on add some
form of 'shell' where a limited form of credit (purchased off-line) can 
be used (minimizes if not eliminates spoofing of credit). As the  folks
get more used to it then add even more features. Sounds a lot like fishing...:)

Take care.
NODE 1806432bRe: Online cash, Internet, Pizza Hut
Jim Choate writes:

> You sound jaded to me Tim.
> 
> As I have alluded in another post, seems the perfect oportunity for doing
> some building if one considers it a base system. I have worked on some

Go to it, then. I'm not jaded, just well-aware that most of what is
now floating around the suddenly-trendy idea of the Digital
Superduperway is little more than hype.

Misplaced zeal, confusing tangential developments with real progress.
Much like libertarians assuming the space program is something they
should somehow be working on.

Pizza Hut is merely taking orders a slightly different way. Nothing
more, and nothing to build on. In fact, working with them would of
course slow down real efforts, as one got stuck in the cheesy workings
of an encrusted bureaucracy.

But don't let me discourage any others from putting on a chef's hat,
slicing up some pepperoni, and helping them get "on-line."

--Tim May




> fries you would never eat there again!). At the present time they use the
> systems for record keeping only. But knowing the big boys as I do (take that
> one as you want) I suspect they will want to crawl before they walk.
> 
> First get folks used to using it for order only, then later on add some
> form of 'shell' where a limited form of credit (purchased off-line) can 
> be used (minimizes if not eliminates spoofing of credit). As the  folks
> get more used to it then add even more features. Sounds a lot like fishing...:)
> 
> Take care.
> 
> 
> 


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NODE 859505d7Re: Online cash, Internet, Pizza Hut
From: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay@NETCOM.COM>
    Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 20:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
    
    Pizza Hut is merely taking orders a slightly different way.

Yup.  In fact, extremely similar systems existed before the pizza
places even realized it.  There's been some kind of Xpizza program
around for quite a while.  All it requires is that you can send a fax
from a program and that your pizza place accepts faxed orders.  You
run the program, click in your toppings, etc. and click OK to send the
order.

			Rick
NODE a39ba7e2Re: Online cash, Internet, Pizza Hut
> Has anyone got any idea how Pizza Hut is handling their new real-time online
> pizza ordering service? As I understand it you can now order pizza over the
> internet if you are in the right locations.

Yes.  This embarrassing little programming exercise may be enjoyed
by connecting to http://www.pizzahut.com.  You first enter your name,
address, and phone number into a form.  If it is within their 
delivery area, you can enter pizza information on a subsequent form.

If not, you have the option of pretending to order a pizza on
a demo form.  The whole thing is pretty lame.

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NODE c3fcb0bfRe: Online cash, Internet, Pizza Hut
> 
> Yes.  This embarrassing little programming exercise may be enjoyed
> by connecting to http://www.pizzahut.com.  You first enter your name,
> address, and phone number into a form.  If it is within their 
> delivery area, you can enter pizza information on a subsequent form.
> 
> If not, you have the option of pretending to order a pizza on
> a demo form.  The whole thing is pretty lame.
> 
Thanks for the info Mike. 

Is there any indication they will move to some kind of online pay system?
Seems to me a gift certificate sort of methodology would work quite well.
Give them the certificate number and the computer matches it to their 
records. The only thing keeping it from being anonymous is that they must
have a address in order to deliver.

As a matter of fact this is probably my biggest objection to all the supposedly
anonymous scredit systems for online shopping. At some point they have to 
know where to send the stuff...