DigiCash ???

Hi all,

I would like somebody to explain how I would  go about using an anonymous
digicash system to buy a automobile?                       
 
Just for arguments sake lets say I want to buy a new  Ford Mustang GT from
the local dealer and desire that nobody at the dealer has any idea who I
am or where I come from.

> Hi all,
> 
> I would like somebody to explain how I would  go about using an anonymous
> digicash system to buy a automobile?                       
>  
> Just for arguments sake lets say I want to buy a new  Ford Mustang GT from
> the local dealer and desire that nobody at the dealer has any idea who I
> am or where I come from.

You hire an anonymous reshiper... no different from an anonymous remailer
only you can't use an automated program (yet :) and its damn difficult to
avoid traffic analysis. Assuming that nobody has decided to follow the car
or put a locater in it, your anonymity is ultimatelly ensured by the fact
that the last reshiper in your chain doesn't know whether or not you are
also a reshipper or the new owner. I actually think that given the
impossibility of avoiding traffic analysis, the most sensible solution is
to find somebody that you absolutely trust to buy the car and give it to
you without adding additional stages.

JWS

> 
> You hire an anonymous reshiper... no different from an anonymous remailer
> only you can't use an automated program (yet :) and its damn difficult to
> avoid traffic analysis. Assuming that nobody has decided to follow the car
> or put a locater in it, your anonymity is ultimatelly ensured by the fact
> that the last reshiper in your chain doesn't know whether or not you are
> also a reshipper or the new owner. I actually think that given the
> impossibility of avoiding traffic analysis, the most sensible solution is
> to find somebody that you absolutely trust to buy the car and give it to
> you without adding additional stages.
> 

I suspect the shippers will surrender their shipping documents when they are
faced with the removal of their bonds. This seems like a very shaky proposition at best.

As to using an anonymouse third party, by placing them at risk this opens them
up to various tactics. For instance, they could be given immunity from any 
charges and then they would be compelled to rat me out.

In every example that deals with the delivery of tangible goods (which is the
majority of what we purchase) the anonymity breaks down at the delivery point.
You have to prove you are the one who is justifiably taking possession. This
to me is a big hole in the system.

I would like somebody to explain how I would  go about using an anonymous
   digicash system to buy a automobile?                       

Let us remember that the reason for anonymous transaction systems in
general is that if identity is revealed by default, there can never be
full privacy.  Merely because transactions exist where revealing
identity must occur, for example, in the transferring of vehicle
title, does not mean that the identity needs to derive from the means
of payment or any identity attached to that means of payment.

Just because the larger transaction itself is not anonymous is no
argument against the monetary transaction being anonymous.

Eric