NODE ba4289acRe: EFF on why they did it.
wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (bill.stewart@pleasantonca.ncr.com +1-510-484-6204)Thu, 18 Aug 94 16:17:46 PDT
David Lesher writes:
> > Paid for "by the government"?!! And just where does the EFF think the
> > government gets its money?
>
> One difference -- the Hill must allocate money for "paid for by the
> government" as compared to "just rape the switch designer" financing.
>
> No money, not wiretaps. That may {or may not} limit the effect of FBI
> Wiretap, depending on how [much/little] the Hill loosens the
> pursestrings.
It's certainly a good start, but the government *does* have other money.
For instance, when Clipper was first announced, they said they wouldn't
need Congressional permission, because they were paying for it out of the
DoJ Super Forfeiture Fund, which had about $2B in money stolen from
users of politically incorrect substances. I realize that doesn't go very
far when you're talking about restructuring the Global Information
Infrastructure. But it's a lever to get stuff started, then they can
go demanding tax money because you *can't* shut down the Phone Companies!
Bill
NODE b9dc9438Re: EFF on why they did it.
cactus@bb.com (L. Todd Masco)Thu, 18 Aug 94 17:34:28 PDT
In article <9408182314.AA22475@anchor.ho.att.com>,
bill.stewart@pleasantonca.ncr.com +1-510-484-6204 <wcs@anchor.ho.att.com> wrote:
>David Lesher writes:
>> No money, not wiretaps. That may {or may not} limit the effect of FBI
>> Wiretap, depending on how [much/little] the Hill loosens the
>> pursestrings.
>
>It's certainly a good start, but the government *does* have other money.
Indeed. I'd really like to see the wording about how they actually need
to be paid for: namely, will allowing tariffs to be raised by RBOCs
count as "paying for it"?
They could spend the money by doing two things:
- Mandating the money be spent (the DT bill)
- and then allowing the RBOCs to increase their tariffs.
Presto! We've paid for the mechanisms, but not through the federal
budgets. The RBOCs have been pushing for high bandwidth R&D increases
of their general tariffs for a really long time, so I could certainly
see them playing along as long as there's room for other R&D in there.
Just a thought...
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