NODE 183506ffRC4 article in Saturday (Sept 17) New York Times
Matt Blaze <mab@research.att.com>Fri, 16 Sep 94 21:56:19 PDT
John Markoff has a piece on the RC4 betrayal in the Business section of
the Saturday NY Times (page 37), "A secret computer code is out -- Key
to data security appears on internet". Not much that hasn't already
been said here or on sci.crypt, but there was an interesting quote from
Jim Bidzos that suggested that one of the conditions RSADSI agreed to
in order to get approval of 40 bit RC4 for export in shrink-wrap software
included keeping the algorithm confidential. Bidzos speculated that
the NSA could revoke RC4's export status as a result of the
disclosure.
Also, the piece reports that "The RC4 formula was first circulated on
Tuesday to a specialized computer network mailing list of computer
researchers who oppose the Government's stringent controls on data
encryption technology. The mailing list, which has thousands of
computer users around the world, is known as Cypherpunks, and the
mailings usually consist of highly technical discussions of data
encryption technology."
I guess Markoff gets Eric Blossom's moderated version of the list :-)
-matt
NODE 412e8583Re: RC4 article in Saturday (Sept 17) New York Times
Jim Gillogly <jim@acm.org>Mon, 19 Sep 94 10:55:05 PDT
> Matt Blaze <mab@research.att.com> writes:
> John Markoff has a piece on the RC4 betrayal in the Business section of...
> ... Bidzos speculated that
> the NSA could revoke RC4's export status as a result of the
> disclosure.
Bidzos may not need to worry about this or ask damages for loss of export
status, if Michael Ernst spoke to the right people for the attached msg.
Jim Gillogly
Hevensday, 28 Halimath S.R. 1994, 17:50
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From: mernst@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Michael Ernst)
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Subject: Re: opinions of RC2 alogrithm
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> The RC2 algorithm is unpublished. Perhaps you could ask a representative
> of RSA whether its remaining unpublished is one of the conditions of its
> fast-track approval for export. (My impression was that this *is* one of
> the conditions of its pre-approval for export, but I am not certain.)
The RC4 algorithm is also unpublished and also exportable at 40-bit key
strength. A couple of weeks ago I asked NSA whether just RSADSI, or both
NSA and RSADSI, want to keep the algorithm secret. NSA told me that they
would be delighted to see the algorithm published, but that RSADSI wanted
to keep it a trade secret, presumably to protect their intellectual property.
Given the parties involved, extra disclaimers must apply.
-Michael Ernst
mernst@theory.lcs.mit.edu
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NODE 79faf2b1RC4 article in Saturday (Sept 17) New York Times
pjm@gasco.com (Patrick J. May)Sat, 17 Sep 94 10:02:29 PDT
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Matt Blaze writes:
> the Saturday NY Times (page 37), "A secret computer code is out -- Key
> to data security appears on internet".
[ . . . ]
> Bidzos speculated that
> the NSA could revoke RC4's export status as a result of the
> disclosure.
"Since this algorithm has been released world-wide, we will not allow
you to export it."
Man, these guys make my head hurt.
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A contract programmer is always intense.
Patrick May
pjm@gasco.com (public key available from servers)
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