Re: Laws Outside the U.S.

Tim May writes:

> Indeed. One of the mysteries is why so few French are on our list...I
> can't recall any, actually. Their country has some of the most
> draconian laws, it is alleged, and, as Phil notes, an active SDECE
> industrial espionage unit.

I noticed the following in sci.crypt recently.  There are some useful crypt-
analysis papers in the archive, among other things:

> From vaudenay@dmi.ens.fr Wed Sep 14 11:52:18 EDT 1994
> Subject: New WWW-Crypto-server
> Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, Paris, France
>
> We are happy to annonce the birth of the html pages of our team :
>
> http://www.ens.fr/equipes_dmi/grecc
>
> Most of our papers are available.
>
>  --Serge for the GRECC team.

The French company BULL makes a nice encrypting laptop computer, called
"Sub Rosa", which is used by Canada's Department of national revenue auditors.

--
Alex Brock

| The French company BULL makes a nice encrypting laptop computer, called
| "Sub Rosa", which is used by Canada's Department of national revenue
| auditors. 

	It should be mentioned that when you buy a complete solution
from a company, you need to trust them.  Bull is not entwined with the
government; it is an arm of the government for all intents and
purposes.  The French intelligence agencies have a long history of
economic espionage.

	I am amazed that the Canadian Dept of Revenue would want the
French government to read all its secrets.

Adam

Adam Shostack says:
> 	It should be mentioned that when you buy a complete solution
> from a company, you need to trust them.  Bull is not entwined with the
> government; it is an arm of the government for all intents and
> purposes.

Why "for all intents and purposes"? Groupe Bull is *owned* by the
French government, along with most big French companies. Until
recently, France was run by socialists who had nationalized most banks
and industry.

Perry