NODE 57c4f4f4Re: (fwd) "Will You Be a Terrorist?"
Alex de Joode <usura@xs4all.nl>Tue, 20 Sep 94 04:43:18 PDT
In article <199409201054.AA01140@panix.com> DFC did write:
: >(In this interpretation, the remailers that many of us have talked
: >about, designed, written software, run on our systems, etc., could be
: >considered to be part of a conspiracy, should Bidzos, Mykotronx,
: >ClariNet, the Feds, etc., choose to focus on remailers as "a
: >continuing criminal enterprise.")
: But we designed and deployed the remailers not as part of a criminal
: enterprise but in an attempt to *generally* protect privacy. We may also
: have wanted to weaken some of the control measures inherent in the TCP/IP
: protocols.
: No US Attorney is going to be interested in the sort of messy political case
: that would be involved in remailer prosecutions.
Please keep in mind that the US jurisdiction doen't cover the whole earth.
(There is life outside the US)
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NODE 83f22536Re: (fwd) "Will You Be a Terrorist?"
"Ian Farquhar" <ianf@wiley.sydney.sgi.com>Tue, 20 Sep 94 16:01:14 PDT
On Sep 20, 1:43pm, Alex de Joode wrote:
> : No US Attorney is going to be interested in the sort of messy political
case
> : that would be involved in remailer prosecutions.
> Please keep in mind that the US jurisdiction doen't cover the whole earth.
But the US government over the past decade have made several moves which
tend to indicate that they DO consider their juristiction to pass their
borders. If memory serves me correctly, the original US Crime Bill also
included sections which made the killing of a US citizen outside the US
a crime (punishable by death no less), which is clearly an extension of US
laws past US borders. And let's not forget Panama.
> (There is life outside the US)
A small aside, but a couple of years back I was the system admin on an
educational political simulation run over the Internet between Macquarie
University, Georgetown University and another University in Texas which
will remain unnamed to protect the guilty. During the setup phases, the system
admin from Texas informed us that he had setup an alias called "world".
Sadly, he could not understand the hilarity at the Georgetown and Macquarie
ends when we discovered that "world" consisted of only accounts in Texas.
Fortunately, the next time we played the simulation we got a much better
system admin who realised that there was physical existance past the Texan
border.
Ian.