Re: Sufferance remailers

Great idea, but IMHO going offshore is a bit difficult...
it might be easier to arrange with a `useful idiot` to
get an extra phone installed in their closet, which would
then call forward to a local (and changeable) phone
number, where the computer would be physically located.

The computer itself would be transportable, and ideally
everything would be enclosed in a self-contained unit
with just two outlets...one for electricity, and one for
the telephone connection.

A further security step would be to trap the box such
that if it were opened improperly, the disk drive would
be physically destroyed.

The local phone calls don't create toll records, nor will
a tap or pin register, since the forwarding occurs in the
phone co. central office.

An important element would be to move the machine around,
both physically and electronically, so that there was a
moving target...and, if you were willing to accept the
phone costs, you could set up offshore.

Comments?  Any flaws in this?

Regards,

Dave

> The local phone calls don't create toll records, nor will
> a tap or pin register, since the forwarding occurs in the
> phone co. central office.

Actually, the switches *are* recording this information.  I've always
been on unmeasured service, and Ameritech sent me a rather detailed
analysis of my local calling patterns in an attempt to get me to
switch to measured service.

On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Dave wrote:

> The local phone calls don't create toll records, nor will
> a tap or pin register, since the forwarding occurs in the
> phone co. central office.

I dont know about you but the local phone service here, GTE, does keep 
records like that. Anyway you are basicaly talking about something that 
would be beyond being worth while. 

> An important element would be to move the machine around,
> both physically and electronically, so that there was a
> moving target...and, if you were willing to accept the
> phone costs, you could set up offshore.

Shure... ...only what around $350 US to set up and register... ...that 
only takes about two weeks to get registerd with teh NIC

Groove on dude
Michael Conlen

dwomack@runner.utsa.edu (Dave) writes:

>Great idea, but IMHO going offshore is a bit difficult...
>it might be easier to arrange with a `useful idiot` to
>get an extra phone installed in their closet, which would
>then call forward to a local (and changeable) phone
>number, where the computer would be physically located.

>The computer itself would be transportable, and ideally
>everything would be enclosed in a self-contained unit
>with just two outlets...one for electricity, and one for
>the telephone connection.

Can't they shut down the closet just as easily as they would have
shut down your computer?

This seems to be a problem with all approaches which seek to hide
the "real remailer" A behind a "front machine" B.  They could just
shut down B.  So sometimes people propose that they will just switch
to a different front machine C, and R is still safe.  Then they shut
down C.  So we switch to D, etc.  But really, couldn't B, C, D, ...
just have been remailers themselves?  What do you really gain by
keeping A secret?  Perhaps if the front machines are much cheaper than
remailer machines it might make sense, but it really doesn't take
much horsepower to run a remailer; probably the net connection is the
expensive part, so B, C, D, etc. are going to be just as expensive as
A.

Hal